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all right i was reading i was reading

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this article on yahoo today and it was

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really good and it was

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they put out the call

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to nurses to share what they had

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experienced or what they had heard

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from patients who were

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basically in their last moments on their

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deathbed

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not always not always in their last

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their last moments

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um

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so i wanted to read there's f i think

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there's like 50

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submissions and some of them are really

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good and some of them are will make you

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shake your head at some of the things

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that people said

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and um

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i have some of my own stories from the

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time

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i was volunt volunteering in 2001 at a

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veterans hospital on long island a

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one story from when i was in high school

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related to death not a death bed vision

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or deathbed experience or anything like

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that with a family member

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but i'll i'll tell that later and um

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starts out yahoo's like

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recently nurses they asked

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what were the most haunting things

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someone said on their deathbed

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practitioners share their experiences

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as well as individuals so it wasn't just

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healthcare nurse it wasn't just nurses

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and healthcare workers it was all

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different kinds of people um so they

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shared their stories

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what they heard when a loved one

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from a loved one shortly before they

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let me go through some of these

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first one

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i'm not a nurse

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but i'm an emtb on the 911 uni uh unit

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we'd gotten a call about a hit and run

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and cops were on the scene first

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some guy and his girlfriend had gotten

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into a fight in a parking lot it ended

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up with him running her over and then

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backing up over her

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she wasn't doing well and her vitals

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were tanking

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we loaded up and she kept mumbling tell

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my mom please tell my mom

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actually i figured she was asking us to

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let her mom know she was hurt

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the hospital was going to take care of

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that so i put it out of my mind as we

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were working over her

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she flatlined before we arrived they

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didn't get her back my partner was

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finishing up her paperwork and turned to

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give her wallet back to the staff

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the nurse on duty who i knew well was

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reading a dirty piece of paper she

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looked disgusted when i asked what was

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up she put the piece of paperwork down

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it was a letter that was picked up near

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her purse on the scene

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the girl who the girl died had gotten

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accepted into college and she wanted

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them to tell her mom that she had gotten

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accepted into college that was the last

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thing she said

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um sad sad story

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not all of all these stories are

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next one is

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right before my grandma died her heart

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rate shot up to the 220s as the monitor

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started sounding all sorts of alarms she

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yelled out am i supposed to stop

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breathing now so a lot of these are

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are com are comedic

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um i don't know if they're meant to be

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funny some of them you'll see

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person was very very light-hearted uh in

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a tough situation

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let me see if i can move this over a

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here's a story i had to tell my

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grandmother that dialysis would only

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give her a week or so to live and it was

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her choice to try it or not she was in

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and out of consciousness at that point

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but she was in a clear state for the

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moment and that's something

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you hear all the time people are on

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their deathbed they're out of it and all

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of a sudden they make this comeback and

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they seem like they're getting better

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and they're fine and that's just really

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common and then they die

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will i die

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she looked me in the eye smiled just a

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little and said

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sometimes you got to do what you don't

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want to do she closed her eyes squeezed

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my hand and slept until she passed a day

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fourth one i'm not a nurse but my

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grandfather was put into a 24 7 care

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home with severe parkinson's

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my mom and grandma had spent four years

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basically taking care of him constantly

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they visited him every other day in

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shifts but i went home one day alone

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he looked me straight in the eye and

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said i need you to get me home so i can

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i can't do it here

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nurses and my family to get him home

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without without saying what he told me

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as he was dying he looked at me and said

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don't let it bother you and died so yeah

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he she didn't get him home but

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he was like it's fine don't worry about

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it and some of these stories are

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you know they're not going to make you

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say oh my god but some of them are some

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of them will make you think about and

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i had a patient whose memory had been

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fading for years it's weird right before

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a patient dies like i said sometimes

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they'll suddenly appear to be doing a

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lot better this is really weird why does

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that happen it happens so many times if

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you read stories about people who are

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dying

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totally out of it next thing you know

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it's like oh they're fine they're going

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to get better people who don't know

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about that think they're getting better

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and then they pass away really soon

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anyway he thought i was his late wife i

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played along and just listened to him

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while he recalled his engagement his

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wedding his first child birth and a few

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at one point he says oh

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irene there you are

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as they used to be well thank you for

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listening to an old man tell his stories

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i hope you have great stories to tell

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one day too i'm coming irene then he

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dead relatives all the time there's so

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many stories about people right before

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they die they start seeing friends and

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relatives at their bedside

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is it really their friends and relatives

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i don't know i don't know later on

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there's a there's one

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there's this there's a story you'll see

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where i start and i've said this before

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when

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remote viewer joe mcmonicle had a remote

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viewing session of a ufo

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event and his father popped into the

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event and mcmonicle said

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you're not my father because the guy was

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acting different than his father had

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acted when he was alive his father was

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dead so this being was kind of like

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portray if you believe the story take it

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as face take it at face value this being

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was pretending to be his father and

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mcmonicle wanted

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macmonical wouldn't have it he's

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basically like you're not my dad and the

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thing just popped out so

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i've brought this up before

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in closing counter cases where people

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during the day they'll have an encounter

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with their dead relative and then at

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night they'll have a close encounter

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case so was that really their dead

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relative they experienced or you know

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encountered during the day it's

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impossible to know that

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just like in in mediumship

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even a physical medium ship where the

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the person allegedly comes into the room

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is that really your dead loved one

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there's no way to know

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just because they look like you're dead

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relative and they tell you details about

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your life there's no way to prove that's

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who it is so

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salt and i know people are like no i

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felt it i had the experience i felt the

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but it's impossible to prove that and

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that i know that's cynical but that's

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meanwhile i'm skipping stories here

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many moons ago when i was a nurse let me

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see if anybody's and i'm not going to

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later on if you want to jump in on video

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and share stories like this you're free

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well let me continue

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many moons ago when i was a nursing

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student a man in his 40s was lying on

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his deathbed from terminal cancer

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with his sobbing wife lying in bed next

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he looked at his wife and using the last

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bit of energy he had gently wiped away

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her tears and stroked her cheek he took

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off his oxygen mask and said don't worry

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love don't be afraid it's just death

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dementia unit of an assisted living

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this is another story for those

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listening on audio which i promise

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tomorrow i will do my best to get these

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so the audio folks can just listen on

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the way to work or wherever

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of an assisted living facility my dad is

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she said every time i checked on her now

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my dad is on his way to pick me up now

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she said every time i checked on her

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started while she was still mobile she

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would tidy her room on the edge of her

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bed just wait most of the day basically

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somebody to come get her

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so when she died they would come greet

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her that's another thing

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we'll talk about people when they die

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you know somebody's coming to show them

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the way how to cross over and it to me

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it's really odd but i'll save that for

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i will interrupt with my own stories let

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one of my own stories my first story

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it's not my first story dealing with

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death that was my great grandmother

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which as a kid did not really affect me

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as far as i could tell until i was at

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the funeral then i just started crying

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grade and i've told this story before i

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this gymnast robin and um

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i sat behind her in class

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and my friend next to me also had a

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crush on her douglas cabrini we would

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always battle for her attention

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and then one day i go home and um i

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never i knew nothing about her her home

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life whatsoever it was always school

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i was on the soccer team she was a

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gymnast

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so i think it was english class but we

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never talked anything about our home

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lives

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and i go home go to sleep and i have a

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dream

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and i think at the time my sister was

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pregnant and in the dream

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we go to see my sister in the hospital

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and

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i'm like wow what are you doing here

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she's like

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my mother died

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have nowhere nowhere to go right now so

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in my dream i convinced my mom to let

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robin come stay with us

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i was being selfish i wanted to spend

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time with her so in the dream i'm like

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oh well she her mother died and she has

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nowhere to go mom please let her come

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over that's so that's the dream my

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mother dies the next day or the day

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after

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going to school

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she's not there and it's possible it's

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possible she was

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absent the day of my dream i'm not sure

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but we're always absent from school you

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don't think anything of it lots of

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people are they're sick

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um anyway she's out she comes back a

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couple of days later

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and me and doug are like why were you

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out and she's like

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my mother died

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um

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and doug is like you're lying because

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she just said it's a matter of fact

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she's like no she had cancer she was

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sick for a long time so we were

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expecting it but yeah my mother died so

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i dreamt it before it happened

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had no

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lead-in no

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no information that her mom was like i

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said no information about her family

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whatsoever

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i looked her up on facebook

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sent her a message told her what

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happened she remembered

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me

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her mom being sick with cancer um she

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told me her own personal story she was

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like yeah that's amazing

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that you had that happen and i never

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told her until 40 years later and then

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she goes oh you're in vegas by the way

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she was in carolina she goes my son

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works for the golden eyes hockey team

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where i worked and um that night

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he came to see me and we spoke and i'm

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like you know i got to see her son it

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was really weird coincidence but so

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that's my story that was my first story

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but i didn't think it was some

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premonition at the time i didn't know

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what that was it's just like oh okay had

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a dream just so turns out

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in my dream she died and then the next

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day

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she's dead you know i find out her

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mother's dead so

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not the only time i had a dream about

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somebody dying the day before or a

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next story

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from the yahoo article i started my

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nursing career on a palliative unit in

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my first three months as a registered

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nurse i pronounced seven deaths the one

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patient had advanced dementia and often

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believed he was at work while he was

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awake in the hospital he would often

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give us the nurses and care aids tasks

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and jobs to do and as he believed

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himself to be our superior

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one day near the end of december he asks

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me when is new year's

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what day is it this year

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i tell him new years will be coming up

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tuesday

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he nods and tells me that he thinks he's

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going to have to quit after the new year

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this job is getting too difficult for

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him and he can't keep up it's time to

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retire

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i tell him we appreciate all the hard

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work he's done and how we'll miss him

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terribly when he's gone

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and that he was a great employee

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whom we all loved working with that

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tuesday january first he passed away

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peace peacefully in his sleep at 2am

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my conversation

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grasped at the nurse's hand and said i

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think i'm going to die now

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the nurse was telling her no

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she was doing much better and would

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likely leave soon meaning leave the

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hospital but my grandmother was gone

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before she could finish her sentence see

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people know

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the last quote is she knew some people

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just know

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and some people can actually

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hold off

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on dying and then

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as i'll share a story later i'll just

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quickly when my mom was sick in 2010

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she was hanging out she was hanging on

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in hospice for like

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an entire week and it's like the

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doctor's like it's just a matter of time

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and we're like why is she holding on

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and then my dad one night my sisters

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convinced him to talk to her whisper in

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her ear and say it's okay to go

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that night after she heard that she died

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so it seems like people can hold on for

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whatever reason and then once they

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here's another one

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how will i explain this mess this one's

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i read most of these today

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in fact i read all of them how will i

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explain this mess

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he asked while pointing to his butt

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this lad comes in after a car accident

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his work

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work van had flipped and rolled the

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fella was wheeled in fully conscious

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with no pain

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or disorientation however he was

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completely twisted in half from the

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midsection down there was no way he

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could he would survive untwisting

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but the blood vessels must have been

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cinched in such a way that he didn't

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bleed out

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doctors and nurses explained the

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situation to him and suggested his

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family come to say goodbye

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he looked like he was lounging on the

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couch watching tv with a blanket over

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his lower half

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once the realization sat in set in he

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replied with

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how will i explain this mess

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it's like

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it's just horrible i mean it's twisted

447
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in half but it's like

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i mean yeah what are you gonna say sorry

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12. i'm scared

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he was an elderly gentleman with

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worsening congestive heart failure who

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was incapacitated his wife put him in

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hospice and he was comfort measures only

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so in other words you don't try to

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you know try to get the person better

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you're just making comfortable pain

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medicine that's kind of that's what

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palliative care is

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which i have experience spending time in

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which i'll share that too

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so he's in this guy's in hospice he was

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comfort measures only i was at the

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nurse's station and i could hear him

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starting to gasp for air

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i walked into the room and he was

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struggling to breathe

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breathe

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i put my stethoscope up to his back but

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i already knew what was happening his

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lungs were full of fluid

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i sat him in bed and he stared at me

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eyes wide open

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head slightly tilted back with a facial

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expression of full-blown panic

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i'm scared

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immediately after he said the words his

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oxygen mask started filling up with

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pinkish red frothy foam running down his

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face and dripping onto his gown he was

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dead within minutes and all i could do

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was watch him i will never forget his

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face that's probably the worst story of

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all the stories in here um it's also

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graphic

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kind of not i'm not really sure why that

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one was included but i guess they

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included everything they received

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um

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here's another one i'm a nursing student

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in canada and my palliative rotation i

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had a patient that was getting medically

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so

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euthanasia was occurring the next day

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he was an elderly cancer patient he told

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me he was a self-ordained minister

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nothing official but an at-home type

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creature and that i could confess to him

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anything i wanted i humored him and

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whispered to him some of my big biggest

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secrets

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i figured who cares he's gonna die

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tomorrow

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he told me it was all right and i could

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tell he appreciated that i confided in

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him he also told me his email address

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and said that while he would not be

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sending emails in return

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that's not that great

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what i was talking about palliative care

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so

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summer of 2001.

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i don't know if you guys know who daniel

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brinkley is

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let me get rid of this for a second no

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so

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i'll save that for later

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so summer of 2001

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daniel brinkley he wrote

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saved by the light and at peace and the

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light which

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he was his first time i don't know if it

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was in the 70s or early 80s but he was

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struck by lightning

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died had a near that near-death

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experience

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he had i think he's had a total of two

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or three near-death experiences

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anyway

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he was a veteran and his big thing is

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you know what he goes i want to start

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a program where

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we have volunteers who spend time with

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dying veterans so they don't die alone

534
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and he was at the deathbed of so many

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veterans i don't know if it's thousands

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or hundreds it's a lot

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and

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so

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i was like you know what i hear him talk

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about this all the time on coast to

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coast with artbell i'm going to do

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something

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that's

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not easy i mean for me

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it's something i wouldn't normally do

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but i wanted to do something good and

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it's not something i would normally do

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so i forced myself to take the class and

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uh one of his trainers i took in the

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bronx i went and took a two day three

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day class with my friend mike and um

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basically it was teaching you how to

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mostly listen but it's three days of

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different exercises and you're dealing

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with people who are dying so

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also not to say the wrong thing

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so i took that class

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and that was summer of 2001

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fall september of 2011 i go to the

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veterans hospital in northport long

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island

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i talked to the chaplain and um

563
00:22:08,070 --> 00:22:06,240
i talked to the chaplain and i said hey

564
00:22:09,750 --> 00:22:08,080
i just took this class on volunteering i

565
00:22:11,029 --> 00:22:09,760
want to spend time with

566
00:22:13,430 --> 00:22:11,039
the guys

567
00:22:15,350 --> 00:22:13,440
and girls in palliative care

568
00:22:17,029 --> 00:22:15,360
basically six months or less to live

569
00:22:18,789 --> 00:22:17,039
just to volunteer and just spend time

570
00:22:20,470 --> 00:22:18,799
with them because a lot of them don't

571
00:22:22,390 --> 00:22:20,480
have family members there

572
00:22:23,830 --> 00:22:22,400
and um he was like yeah that's fine you

573
00:22:25,270 --> 00:22:23,840
know if you're just going to talk to

574
00:22:26,390 --> 00:22:25,280
them about whatever they want to talk to

575
00:22:27,990 --> 00:22:26,400
that's fine

576
00:22:30,230 --> 00:22:28,000
and then the first plane hit the tower

577
00:22:32,390 --> 00:22:30,240
on it was 9 11.

578
00:22:35,430 --> 00:22:32,400
long story short had to evacuate the

579
00:22:37,350 --> 00:22:35,440
hospital but i went back a week later um

580
00:22:39,430 --> 00:22:37,360
and started volunteering with them

581
00:22:41,110 --> 00:22:39,440
probably like three days a week

582
00:22:42,710 --> 00:22:41,120
and

583
00:22:44,070 --> 00:22:42,720
like i said it's six months or six

584
00:22:45,830 --> 00:22:44,080
months or less

585
00:22:47,990 --> 00:22:45,840
it's just pain management making them

586
00:22:51,029 --> 00:22:48,000
comfortable before they die

587
00:22:55,510 --> 00:22:53,029
this was not my first patient but this

588
00:22:57,350 --> 00:22:55,520
is one i'll tell before i get back to

589
00:22:59,510 --> 00:22:57,360
the yahoo stories i have a few stories

590
00:23:01,270 --> 00:22:59,520
from this so i walk into this one room

591
00:23:03,270 --> 00:23:01,280
one day i had been there for a couple of

592
00:23:04,950 --> 00:23:03,280
months and there's a new guy

593
00:23:06,390 --> 00:23:04,960
i'm like how you doing he's like not

594
00:23:07,190 --> 00:23:06,400
good i'm like what's the matter he's

595
00:23:09,270 --> 00:23:07,200
like

596
00:23:11,830 --> 00:23:09,280
i don't be i do not want to be here

597
00:23:12,549 --> 00:23:11,840
anymore i just want to die

598
00:23:13,990 --> 00:23:12,559
now

599
00:23:15,590 --> 00:23:14,000
he was lying in a bed but there was

600
00:23:18,390 --> 00:23:15,600
nothing that i could see was wrong with

601
00:23:21,830 --> 00:23:18,400
him i couldn't see he was walking moving

602
00:23:24,549 --> 00:23:21,840
he was probably in his early

603
00:23:25,990 --> 00:23:24,559
you just normal guy but you knew he was

604
00:23:27,750 --> 00:23:26,000
you know he had limited time because

605
00:23:29,510 --> 00:23:27,760
that's the people who are in this unit

606
00:23:31,110 --> 00:23:29,520
they have limited time

607
00:23:32,710 --> 00:23:31,120
so like he said

608
00:23:34,070 --> 00:23:32,720
i just want to die and i want to be here

609
00:23:36,630 --> 00:23:34,080
and we talked a little bit and then i

610
00:23:37,990 --> 00:23:36,640
left and i'm like well

611
00:23:39,750 --> 00:23:38,000
i didn't know what to say so i said i

612
00:23:41,190 --> 00:23:39,760
hope you get what you want or i hope you

613
00:23:42,630 --> 00:23:41,200
get you know

614
00:23:44,549 --> 00:23:42,640
you get your wish

615
00:23:46,470 --> 00:23:44,559
and a couple of days later it might have

616
00:23:48,950 --> 00:23:46,480
been the next day

617
00:23:51,350 --> 00:23:48,960
i go in he's gone his bed is empty i

618
00:23:54,390 --> 00:23:51,360
talked to the nurse she's like yeah um

619
00:23:56,950 --> 00:23:54,400
that night or last night

620
00:23:58,149 --> 00:23:56,960
he was laying in bed uh i was in his

621
00:24:00,710 --> 00:23:58,159
room

622
00:24:02,870 --> 00:24:00,720
he looked up at the ceiling

623
00:24:05,110 --> 00:24:02,880
he put both of his hands up like this

624
00:24:06,870 --> 00:24:05,120
looked up at the ceiling

625
00:24:08,470 --> 00:24:06,880
and then put his arms down closed his

626
00:24:09,430 --> 00:24:08,480
eyes and passed away

627
00:24:11,110 --> 00:24:09,440
so

628
00:24:12,630 --> 00:24:11,120
he got what he wanted and it happened

629
00:24:13,430 --> 00:24:12,640
really quick a day or two and like i

630
00:24:14,549 --> 00:24:13,440
said

631
00:24:16,149 --> 00:24:14,559
you look if you looked at him you're

632
00:24:18,549 --> 00:24:16,159
like this guy is not going to die

633
00:24:20,390 --> 00:24:18,559
anytime soon

634
00:24:22,710 --> 00:24:20,400
so

635
00:24:24,630 --> 00:24:22,720
that was an interesting story

636
00:24:29,350 --> 00:24:24,640
and i know nurses have so many stories

637
00:24:29,360 --> 00:24:32,630
let's see

638
00:24:35,990 --> 00:24:33,990
about here's another story from the

639
00:24:39,590 --> 00:24:36,000
yahoo article about two two minutes

640
00:24:43,430 --> 00:24:39,600
before my grandma passed she had clarity

641
00:24:46,230 --> 00:24:43,440
she suffered from severe dementia

642
00:24:47,830 --> 00:24:46,240
hold on one second so much time in or 24

643
00:24:49,510 --> 00:24:47,840
minutes all right

644
00:24:51,510 --> 00:24:49,520
she saw she suffered from severe

645
00:24:53,830 --> 00:24:51,520
dementia for years

646
00:24:55,269 --> 00:24:53,840
she opened her eyes and said i found

647
00:24:58,470 --> 00:24:55,279
jack

648
00:25:05,190 --> 00:24:58,480
prior

649
00:25:07,590 --> 00:25:06,070
sorry

650
00:25:09,510 --> 00:25:07,600
she said they were all at a ball with

651
00:25:11,990 --> 00:25:09,520
their friends then she said i've got to

652
00:25:14,870 --> 00:25:12,000
go he asked me to dance then she was

653
00:25:17,350 --> 00:25:14,880
gone she died

654
00:25:19,269 --> 00:25:17,360
another one my patient grabbed my arm

655
00:25:21,430 --> 00:25:19,279
looked at me in the eyes and said

656
00:25:24,230 --> 00:25:21,440
please don't let me die i have a

657
00:25:27,990 --> 00:25:26,149
another one my brother couldn't really

658
00:25:30,149 --> 00:25:28,000
talk while he was dying but the look in

659
00:25:32,630 --> 00:25:30,159
his eyes before his death rattle will

660
00:25:34,230 --> 00:25:32,640
haunt me forever and the death rattle is

661
00:25:36,470 --> 00:25:34,240
right before you die there's just

662
00:25:37,350 --> 00:25:36,480
breathing that everybody does and it's

663
00:25:38,710 --> 00:25:37,360
like

664
00:25:39,909 --> 00:25:38,720
i don't know if i heard it at the

665
00:25:42,390 --> 00:25:39,919
hospital

666
00:25:43,669 --> 00:25:42,400
there was one guy that got sick

667
00:25:45,590 --> 00:25:43,679
and i was

668
00:25:47,590 --> 00:25:45,600
with him

669
00:25:49,590 --> 00:25:47,600
i wasn't i don't think no i was not with

670
00:25:51,110 --> 00:25:49,600
any of these guys when they passed but i

671
00:25:52,950 --> 00:25:51,120
heard the death rattle and it's just a

672
00:25:56,549 --> 00:25:52,960
voice this noise that comes in your

673
00:25:57,990 --> 00:25:56,559
throat when you're very close to dying

674
00:26:00,950 --> 00:25:58,000
but the look in his eyes before his

675
00:26:03,590 --> 00:26:00,960
death rattle will haunt me forever

676
00:26:05,909 --> 00:26:03,600
whatever he saw it awed him like a kid

677
00:26:08,470 --> 00:26:05,919
seeing disneyland for the first time

678
00:26:10,149 --> 00:26:08,480
i've never seen a person's eyes go so

679
00:26:12,390 --> 00:26:10,159
wide

680
00:26:14,070 --> 00:26:12,400
my guess is he saw the whole damn

681
00:26:16,149 --> 00:26:14,080
universe at once

682
00:26:17,430 --> 00:26:16,159
that's a great story you know gives you

683
00:26:19,830 --> 00:26:17,440
very very

684
00:26:22,470 --> 00:26:19,840
positive outlook on what we face when we

685
00:26:25,669 --> 00:26:23,750
would have been nice to know exactly

686
00:26:27,110 --> 00:26:25,679
what he was seeing

687
00:26:29,750 --> 00:26:27,120
another one

688
00:26:31,990 --> 00:26:29,760
i didn't mean to

689
00:26:34,149 --> 00:26:32,000
we were sending this middle-aged guy

690
00:26:36,710 --> 00:26:34,159
home after his er visit

691
00:26:38,549 --> 00:26:36,720
as soon as we moved him off to bed

692
00:26:39,669 --> 00:26:38,559
he went unresponsive and had no

693
00:26:41,830 --> 00:26:39,679
heartbeat

694
00:26:44,230 --> 00:26:41,840
we did a couple of rounds of cpr and he

695
00:26:46,630 --> 00:26:44,240
began to come too he blinked a couple of

696
00:26:48,070 --> 00:26:46,640
times and the doctor running the code

697
00:26:50,710 --> 00:26:48,080
jokingly said

698
00:26:53,830 --> 00:26:50,720
sir you almost died on us

699
00:26:55,269 --> 00:26:53,840
the man said i'm sorry i didn't mean to

700
00:26:56,789 --> 00:26:55,279
in a sad way

701
00:26:59,510 --> 00:26:56,799
his heart then stopped again and we

702
00:27:01,190 --> 00:26:59,520
couldn't get him back

703
00:27:03,990 --> 00:27:01,200
the person follows up by saying it was

704
00:27:05,750 --> 00:27:04,000
most likely a saddle pulmonary embolism

705
00:27:07,669 --> 00:27:05,760
he was there for some something pretty

706
00:27:09,669 --> 00:27:07,679
mild but he threw a clot right when he

707
00:27:12,149 --> 00:27:09,679
was being transferred if you want to

708
00:27:13,990 --> 00:27:12,159
look it up he had a classic

709
00:27:16,870 --> 00:27:14,000
and they go you could see that on the

710
00:27:18,630 --> 00:27:16,880
screen cape cyanosis across his chest

711
00:27:21,269 --> 00:27:18,640
which is indicate in

712
00:27:23,909 --> 00:27:21,279
indicative of a big

713
00:27:28,310 --> 00:27:26,630
um 18 this is the 18th story i think

714
00:27:30,389 --> 00:27:28,320
that's 50.

715
00:27:32,230 --> 00:27:30,399
when i was 16 i was working in a nursing

716
00:27:33,990 --> 00:27:32,240
home i befriend befriended a man who

717
00:27:36,549 --> 00:27:34,000
talked about world war ii and how he'd

718
00:27:37,990 --> 00:27:36,559
lost so many guys in his company one day

719
00:27:39,590 --> 00:27:38,000
he had a stroke

720
00:27:41,990 --> 00:27:39,600
when he returned from the hospital he

721
00:27:44,149 --> 00:27:42,000
couldn't remember anyone but he told me

722
00:27:46,470 --> 00:27:44,159
he wasn't doing good he knew his time

723
00:27:48,470 --> 00:27:46,480
was coming to a close

724
00:27:49,909 --> 00:27:48,480
he said it was time to pay for all of

725
00:27:51,269 --> 00:27:49,919
the horrible things he had done in

726
00:27:53,430 --> 00:27:51,279
europe

727
00:27:56,070 --> 00:27:53,440
he wasn't religious but asked me where i

728
00:27:58,149 --> 00:27:56,080
thought he was going i said to bed

729
00:27:59,190 --> 00:27:58,159
because it's light out lights out he

730
00:28:03,750 --> 00:27:59,200
said

731
00:28:05,590 --> 00:28:03,760
no joe my name's mike i mean up or down

732
00:28:07,830 --> 00:28:05,600
meaning heaven or hell

733
00:28:09,990 --> 00:28:07,840
i'm not a religious person but i said

734
00:28:11,830 --> 00:28:10,000
that's not for me to say

735
00:28:13,590 --> 00:28:11,840
he laughed and said i know where i'm

736
00:28:15,669 --> 00:28:13,600
going there's only one place for people

737
00:28:17,830 --> 00:28:15,679
who have done what i've done i've killed

738
00:28:19,590 --> 00:28:17,840
so many people joe

739
00:28:22,149 --> 00:28:19,600
most of the time it didn't matter who it

740
00:28:23,830 --> 00:28:22,159
was we went into buildings just shooting

741
00:28:25,190 --> 00:28:23,840
there's only one place for me it's what

742
00:28:27,750 --> 00:28:25,200
i deserve

743
00:28:29,830 --> 00:28:27,760
um yeah i

744
00:28:31,430 --> 00:28:29,840
i don't think first of all i don't think

745
00:28:32,789 --> 00:28:31,440
i do think we survive death i don't

746
00:28:34,789 --> 00:28:32,799
think it's a heaven or health type of

747
00:28:36,710 --> 00:28:34,799
situation and

748
00:28:38,389 --> 00:28:36,720
something that goes on in war is a

749
00:28:39,669 --> 00:28:38,399
little different than just blindly

750
00:28:41,110 --> 00:28:39,679
killing people

751
00:28:44,070 --> 00:28:41,120
of course there are people who would

752
00:28:51,750 --> 00:28:44,080
disagree with me but

753
00:28:55,190 --> 00:28:53,510
one guy confessed to me this is number

754
00:28:56,710 --> 00:28:55,200
19.

755
00:28:58,870 --> 00:28:56,720
one guy confessed to me that he was a

756
00:29:01,110 --> 00:28:58,880
nazi war criminal he didn't have

757
00:29:03,510 --> 00:29:01,120
dementia he was with it and i don't

758
00:29:06,389 --> 00:29:03,520
think he'd ever told anyone else he was

759
00:29:07,430 --> 00:29:06,399
in his mid 90s i saw he was german saw

760
00:29:10,389 --> 00:29:07,440
his age

761
00:29:12,789 --> 00:29:10,399
and asked if he served in the war

762
00:29:15,190 --> 00:29:12,799
as i'm a former combat armed soldier he

763
00:29:17,269 --> 00:29:15,200
said yes so i told him that i was in the

764
00:29:19,430 --> 00:29:17,279
army myself when i was young and asked

765
00:29:21,029 --> 00:29:19,440
some questions about what he did

766
00:29:22,549 --> 00:29:21,039
after a little while he broke down and

767
00:29:24,549 --> 00:29:22,559
talked about his participation in

768
00:29:27,110 --> 00:29:24,559
killing jews in russia

769
00:29:28,070 --> 00:29:27,120
he was a junior officer in a wormock

770
00:29:30,149 --> 00:29:28,080
unit

771
00:29:32,549 --> 00:29:30,159
he knew he was dying it all came out and

772
00:29:33,990 --> 00:29:32,559
he cried for a long time i'm nothing but

773
00:29:36,230 --> 00:29:34,000
a murderer

774
00:29:38,830 --> 00:29:36,240
he died a day or so later those are some

775
00:29:41,029 --> 00:29:38,840
pretty heavy stories there

776
00:29:44,549 --> 00:29:41,039
um let me go back to some i'm gonna go

777
00:29:44,559 --> 00:29:53,669
hospital

778
00:29:58,310 --> 00:29:55,909
so john

779
00:30:00,310 --> 00:29:58,320
i think john was the first patient i met

780
00:30:02,149 --> 00:30:00,320
when i was in the hospital this is the

781
00:30:03,269 --> 00:30:02,159
northport veterans administration

782
00:30:05,909 --> 00:30:03,279
hospital

783
00:30:06,870 --> 00:30:05,919
northport long island right after 9 11

784
00:30:08,870 --> 00:30:06,880
so

785
00:30:11,590 --> 00:30:08,880
middle september i started

786
00:30:13,909 --> 00:30:11,600
volunteering and john was an old guy and

787
00:30:15,909 --> 00:30:13,919
i have pictures of these guys i need to

788
00:30:18,470 --> 00:30:15,919
i didn't have time to get it for tonight

789
00:30:21,510 --> 00:30:18,480
um but i'll put them on twitter

790
00:30:23,190 --> 00:30:21,520
john bill and frank three main patients

791
00:30:24,470 --> 00:30:23,200
i spent about nine months with each of

792
00:30:27,909 --> 00:30:24,480
them

793
00:30:29,909 --> 00:30:27,919
they they passed before the last guy

794
00:30:33,269 --> 00:30:29,919
passed then i stopped volunteering but

795
00:30:35,590 --> 00:30:33,279
john was eight in his eighties um really

796
00:30:37,750 --> 00:30:35,600
really energetic spunky he would he had

797
00:30:40,070 --> 00:30:37,760
these like pulleys set up on his bed

798
00:30:41,350 --> 00:30:40,080
he would exercise couldn't walk he was

799
00:30:43,269 --> 00:30:41,360
in a wheelchair

800
00:30:45,110 --> 00:30:43,279
and um he would help you know he's like

801
00:30:47,750 --> 00:30:45,120
can you help me with these ropes i want

802
00:30:48,950 --> 00:30:47,760
to re-re-route these ropes and do this

803
00:30:52,070 --> 00:30:48,960
and if i didn't do it right he would

804
00:30:55,909 --> 00:30:52,080
yell he's like no damn it wrapped up and

805
00:30:57,430 --> 00:30:55,919
he'd curse at me it was kind of funny um

806
00:30:59,190 --> 00:30:57,440
and i remember taking him outside in the

807
00:31:01,190 --> 00:30:59,200
courtyard one day and

808
00:31:03,509 --> 00:31:01,200
just him being outside was a big deal to

809
00:31:05,909 --> 00:31:03,519
them and all these guys because

810
00:31:07,269 --> 00:31:05,919
no matter what i had going on in my life

811
00:31:09,029 --> 00:31:07,279
at the time that would depress me i'm

812
00:31:10,470 --> 00:31:09,039
like these guys are dying and if they're

813
00:31:11,990 --> 00:31:10,480
not depressed then how can i be

814
00:31:13,509 --> 00:31:12,000
depressed that's how it was when i was

815
00:31:15,909 --> 00:31:13,519
there so

816
00:31:19,110 --> 00:31:15,919
really rewarding thing to do

817
00:31:23,830 --> 00:31:21,110
towards the end i had a trip scheduled

818
00:31:25,590 --> 00:31:23,840
he was such a big gambler which is not a

819
00:31:28,310 --> 00:31:25,600
good combination for me because i gamble

820
00:31:29,750 --> 00:31:28,320
too oh before i forget i didn't i forgot

821
00:31:31,350 --> 00:31:29,760
the story

822
00:31:34,389 --> 00:31:31,360
another patient who i'll get to in a

823
00:31:36,389 --> 00:31:34,399
second uh frank

824
00:31:38,710 --> 00:31:36,399
he wanted to bend on the super bowl but

825
00:31:40,950 --> 00:31:38,720
he had nobody to bet on it with so

826
00:31:42,549 --> 00:31:40,960
i had an online sports book that i was

827
00:31:44,950 --> 00:31:42,559
betting with so

828
00:31:46,470 --> 00:31:44,960
i made the bet for him

829
00:31:48,310 --> 00:31:46,480
and i came in after the super bowl i

830
00:31:49,509 --> 00:31:48,320
just gave him cash he had not given me

831
00:31:51,269 --> 00:31:49,519
money up front i probably wouldn't have

832
00:31:52,870 --> 00:31:51,279
taken his money anyway i probably

833
00:31:55,430 --> 00:31:52,880
wouldn't even told him i made the bet if

834
00:31:57,110 --> 00:31:55,440
it didn't win the bet won though i paid

835
00:31:58,710 --> 00:31:57,120
him like 30 40 bucks i'm like here you

836
00:32:01,430 --> 00:31:58,720
go frank i made a bet for you he was so

837
00:32:03,430 --> 00:32:01,440
happy um

838
00:32:05,350 --> 00:32:03,440
back to john he was big into horses off

839
00:32:06,549 --> 00:32:05,360
track betting otb and it's a big thing

840
00:32:07,750 --> 00:32:06,559
on long island

841
00:32:09,190 --> 00:32:07,760
and um

842
00:32:11,029 --> 00:32:09,200
he had an account so he would call up

843
00:32:12,870 --> 00:32:11,039
and make bets on the phone

844
00:32:14,630 --> 00:32:12,880
and i was like let's go to the track we

845
00:32:18,630 --> 00:32:14,640
have to go to the track one day i think

846
00:32:20,389 --> 00:32:18,640
belmont racetrack thoroughbred and um

847
00:32:22,149 --> 00:32:20,399
everything was set i had a friend come

848
00:32:23,430 --> 00:32:22,159
with me we're gonna put his wheelchair

849
00:32:24,789 --> 00:32:23,440
in the car we're gonna take him to the

850
00:32:26,710 --> 00:32:24,799
races

851
00:32:29,029 --> 00:32:26,720
and then i get there and he's like or i

852
00:32:31,190 --> 00:32:29,039
call him i'm like you ready he's like

853
00:32:32,870 --> 00:32:31,200
yeah mike wheelchair had to get fixed

854
00:32:34,630 --> 00:32:32,880
today and i don't think i'm gonna go and

855
00:32:36,710 --> 00:32:34,640
i'm so disappointed

856
00:32:38,470 --> 00:32:36,720
he didn't seem disappointed but i was

857
00:32:39,909 --> 00:32:38,480
and then

858
00:32:41,669 --> 00:32:39,919
i don't know how long after that but he

859
00:32:43,590 --> 00:32:41,679
was eating breakfast one day i was not

860
00:32:44,950 --> 00:32:43,600
there i came in afterwards but he was

861
00:32:46,789 --> 00:32:44,960
eating breakfast

862
00:32:47,909 --> 00:32:46,799
turned his head closed his eyes and

863
00:32:49,029 --> 00:32:47,919
passed away

864
00:32:50,549 --> 00:32:49,039
and

865
00:32:53,350 --> 00:32:50,559
i did go in his room right after it

866
00:32:55,350 --> 00:32:53,360
happened and i just remember my my

867
00:32:56,789 --> 00:32:55,360
reaction was he looked like a wax figure

868
00:32:58,470 --> 00:32:56,799
it's like the person is not there

869
00:33:00,149 --> 00:32:58,480
anymore and i know that's just how

870
00:33:02,070 --> 00:33:00,159
people look but just that's just my

871
00:33:03,430 --> 00:33:02,080
feeling you know felt like a shell of a

872
00:33:04,549 --> 00:33:03,440
person

873
00:33:06,389 --> 00:33:04,559
um

874
00:33:08,230 --> 00:33:06,399
his brother jerry and his wife were the

875
00:33:09,909 --> 00:33:08,240
only one that only ones who would visit

876
00:33:11,830 --> 00:33:09,919
him and they were very appreciative all

877
00:33:13,350 --> 00:33:11,840
the family members i encountered

878
00:33:15,110 --> 00:33:13,360
were very appreciative because a lot of

879
00:33:16,630 --> 00:33:15,120
them couldn't make it to the to visit

880
00:33:18,310 --> 00:33:16,640
that's what i was there for

881
00:33:19,990 --> 00:33:18,320
because these guys were always by

882
00:33:21,350 --> 00:33:20,000
themselves so if i was there it's like

883
00:33:23,029 --> 00:33:21,360
at least i had somebody to talk to and

884
00:33:26,149 --> 00:33:23,039
they talked to me about everything and

885
00:33:28,230 --> 00:33:26,159
anything um i mean they didn't really

886
00:33:29,750 --> 00:33:28,240
talk about dying or being sick

887
00:33:31,430 --> 00:33:29,760
occasionally but

888
00:33:32,789 --> 00:33:31,440
most of these guys are just didn't even

889
00:33:34,710 --> 00:33:32,799
want to talk about it it's not like they

890
00:33:36,870 --> 00:33:34,720
were fearful only one was fearful and

891
00:33:39,990 --> 00:33:36,880
i'll get to frank in a second

892
00:33:41,590 --> 00:33:40,000
but i had a family member afterwards say

893
00:33:43,430 --> 00:33:41,600
you need to be talking to jesus with

894
00:33:45,029 --> 00:33:43,440
these folks because that's just not

895
00:33:46,870 --> 00:33:45,039
right you know they're dying and they

896
00:33:48,470 --> 00:33:46,880
need to talk about jesus i'm like i'm

897
00:33:49,909 --> 00:33:48,480
not there to talk about that i'm there

898
00:33:51,750 --> 00:33:49,919
to talk about whatever they want to talk

899
00:33:54,549 --> 00:33:51,760
about so if you want to judge me for

900
00:33:56,870 --> 00:33:54,559
that fine um

901
00:33:58,789 --> 00:33:56,880
i do remember sometime one day somebody

902
00:34:00,950 --> 00:33:58,799
came in and was talking to john the

903
00:34:02,950 --> 00:34:00,960
older 80 year old guy about

904
00:34:05,430 --> 00:34:02,960
christianity and the bible and i started

905
00:34:07,029 --> 00:34:05,440
debating the guy nicely and john was

906
00:34:08,950 --> 00:34:07,039
enjoying the debate it was funny it was

907
00:34:10,230 --> 00:34:08,960
like a tennis match the guy would say

908
00:34:11,589 --> 00:34:10,240
something about the bible i would say

909
00:34:12,950 --> 00:34:11,599
something back and john was just sitting

910
00:34:16,230 --> 00:34:12,960
there going back and forth back and

911
00:34:17,510 --> 00:34:16,240
forth he's like i am enjoying this

912
00:34:19,669 --> 00:34:17,520
um

913
00:34:22,550 --> 00:34:19,679
so

914
00:34:26,389 --> 00:34:24,230
frank had emphysema he was the one who

915
00:34:28,550 --> 00:34:26,399
was he was catholic very catholic he

916
00:34:31,109 --> 00:34:28,560
always had the rosary tight in his hands

917
00:34:33,190 --> 00:34:31,119
uh he was really afraid to die

918
00:34:35,669 --> 00:34:33,200
and

919
00:34:37,349 --> 00:34:35,679
little bit but some days he would just

920
00:34:39,430 --> 00:34:37,359
be out of breath he had emphysema he's

921
00:34:41,270 --> 00:34:39,440
like not today i don't want to talk

922
00:34:44,069 --> 00:34:41,280
um so he had some good days some bad

923
00:34:46,310 --> 00:34:44,079
days but once again he was somebody

924
00:34:48,069 --> 00:34:46,320
he never took a downturn bill who's my

925
00:34:49,589 --> 00:34:48,079
last patient i'll talk to he took a down

926
00:34:50,869 --> 00:34:49,599
turn but everybody else i spoke with

927
00:34:52,149 --> 00:34:50,879
there was never like a noticeable

928
00:34:54,149 --> 00:34:52,159
downturn

929
00:34:55,829 --> 00:34:54,159
so you know go to visit frank one day

930
00:34:56,950 --> 00:34:55,839
i'm not sure if he if i talk to him that

931
00:34:59,030 --> 00:34:56,960
day or not

932
00:35:00,790 --> 00:34:59,040
either way i had no inkling that he was

933
00:35:02,470 --> 00:35:00,800
getting worse or anything like that same

934
00:35:03,910 --> 00:35:02,480
every day except some days he didn't

935
00:35:05,750 --> 00:35:03,920
want to talk because he was out of

936
00:35:08,150 --> 00:35:05,760
breath went home

937
00:35:10,390 --> 00:35:08,160
had a clear dream that he died went in

938
00:35:12,630 --> 00:35:10,400
the next day or the day after and

939
00:35:15,349 --> 00:35:12,640
the nurse stops me and says i need to

940
00:35:17,589 --> 00:35:15,359
talk to you i'm like let me guess frank

941
00:35:19,109 --> 00:35:17,599
died she's like how do you know i'm like

942
00:35:21,190 --> 00:35:19,119
because i had a dream last night that he

943
00:35:22,230 --> 00:35:21,200
died i had a dream last night that he

944
00:35:24,310 --> 00:35:22,240
died

945
00:35:26,710 --> 00:35:24,320
i remember she was not that surprised

946
00:35:28,790 --> 00:35:26,720
because i'm sure like i said nurses

947
00:35:30,310 --> 00:35:28,800
who work in palliative care or hospice

948
00:35:31,430 --> 00:35:30,320
they have that type of thing happen all

949
00:35:33,670 --> 00:35:31,440
the time

950
00:35:35,349 --> 00:35:33,680
um so yeah

951
00:35:37,430 --> 00:35:35,359
why did i have that dream why did i have

952
00:35:39,910 --> 00:35:37,440
the dream back in eighth grade with

953
00:35:41,190 --> 00:35:39,920
robin's mother dying i don't know

954
00:35:42,790 --> 00:35:41,200
but i did go into frank's room

955
00:35:45,670 --> 00:35:42,800
afterwards and just to see his room one

956
00:35:47,589 --> 00:35:45,680
more time and his bed was empty but the

957
00:35:50,950 --> 00:35:47,599
bed next to him had a figure in it like

958
00:35:51,910 --> 00:35:50,960
an outline of a person and i was like

959
00:35:53,670 --> 00:35:51,920
why is

960
00:35:55,990 --> 00:35:53,680
why didn't they take his body away this

961
00:35:57,510 --> 00:35:56,000
is really weird and all of a sudden the

962
00:35:58,950 --> 00:35:57,520
covers who are you know it's totally

963
00:36:01,510 --> 00:35:58,960
covering up the person the covers come

964
00:36:03,670 --> 00:36:01,520
off scares the heck out of me and it's a

965
00:36:05,109 --> 00:36:03,680
person a new a new patient had been

966
00:36:06,710 --> 00:36:05,119
brought into the room

967
00:36:08,870 --> 00:36:06,720
the guy's like hello

968
00:36:10,310 --> 00:36:08,880
i'm like hey how you doing and i don't

969
00:36:12,870 --> 00:36:10,320
remember the conversation it was really

970
00:36:14,470 --> 00:36:12,880
brief um so that was frank

971
00:36:16,630 --> 00:36:14,480
and um he was the one who i made the

972
00:36:18,950 --> 00:36:16,640
super bowl bet for

973
00:36:21,109 --> 00:36:18,960
and um

974
00:36:22,710 --> 00:36:21,119
like i said he was very afraid of dying

975
00:36:24,829 --> 00:36:22,720
and it seems like the religion was a big

976
00:36:26,390 --> 00:36:24,839
part of that

977
00:36:27,670 --> 00:36:26,400
um

978
00:36:29,190 --> 00:36:27,680
i don't remember too much about our

979
00:36:30,710 --> 00:36:29,200
conversations i do remember he used to

980
00:36:32,470 --> 00:36:30,720
drive into new york city from long

981
00:36:34,470 --> 00:36:32,480
island every day it was like an hour and

982
00:36:36,550 --> 00:36:34,480
a half if you know it's the world's

983
00:36:38,790 --> 00:36:36,560
largest parking lot not as bad as la but

984
00:36:40,870 --> 00:36:38,800
it's pretty bad that's like three hours

985
00:36:42,470 --> 00:36:40,880
each way every day he did that for his

986
00:36:44,150 --> 00:36:42,480
entire career and i was like i remember

987
00:36:45,030 --> 00:36:44,160
thinking what are you thinking he's like

988
00:36:46,310 --> 00:36:45,040
yeah

989
00:36:48,310 --> 00:36:46,320
should have never done that what a waste

990
00:36:58,310 --> 00:36:48,320
of time in the car

991
00:37:02,390 --> 00:37:00,069
thanks for being here guys and the chat

992
00:37:04,069 --> 00:37:02,400
hello red panda koala and shelly and

993
00:37:07,829 --> 00:37:04,079
john and heidi

994
00:37:11,349 --> 00:37:09,430
yeah

995
00:37:14,550 --> 00:37:11,359
i have not personally experienced that

996
00:37:18,550 --> 00:37:16,630
i was not there for anybody even when my

997
00:37:20,870 --> 00:37:18,560
when my mom passed i was not there you

998
00:37:23,430 --> 00:37:20,880
know it's like i spent all these times

999
00:37:26,310 --> 00:37:23,440
all this time with people who are dying

1000
00:37:27,750 --> 00:37:26,320
but then when my mom passed i really

1001
00:37:31,109 --> 00:37:27,760
i think i went home and then it happened

1002
00:37:32,550 --> 00:37:31,119
right after me my sisters had gone home

1003
00:37:34,069 --> 00:37:32,560
i didn't even really want i didn't want

1004
00:37:35,349 --> 00:37:34,079
to go in the room after she passed away

1005
00:37:36,950 --> 00:37:35,359
either and i didn't i was like i don't

1006
00:37:38,950 --> 00:37:36,960
want i don't want that memory i have my

1007
00:37:40,470 --> 00:37:38,960
memories of her i don't need that memory

1008
00:37:41,990 --> 00:37:40,480
and everybody's like no go ahead go

1009
00:37:43,990 --> 00:37:42,000
ahead she looks very peaceful and i'm

1010
00:37:45,270 --> 00:37:44,000
like me i don't want to

1011
00:37:46,230 --> 00:37:45,280
personally and then we talked to the

1012
00:37:47,349 --> 00:37:46,240
doctor

1013
00:37:49,190 --> 00:37:47,359
because i said

1014
00:37:52,230 --> 00:37:49,200
once my father whispered in her ear to

1015
00:37:53,910 --> 00:37:52,240
tell her it's okay that night she died

1016
00:37:56,390 --> 00:37:53,920
and i talked we talked to the doctor

1017
00:37:57,990 --> 00:37:56,400
he's like i see it all the time all the

1018
00:37:59,589 --> 00:37:58,000
time people can hold on for whatever

1019
00:38:01,510 --> 00:37:59,599
reason and then once they let go they

1020
00:38:06,069 --> 00:38:01,520
die

1021
00:38:06,079 --> 00:38:11,190
yahoo story which is right there

1022
00:38:16,390 --> 00:38:13,910
i looked after a guy

1023
00:38:17,990 --> 00:38:16,400
with end stage heart failure he kept

1024
00:38:19,349 --> 00:38:18,000
having episodes where if he coughed or

1025
00:38:23,670 --> 00:38:19,359
leaned forward

1026
00:38:26,390 --> 00:38:23,680
did anything to increase his intraoracic

1027
00:38:27,190 --> 00:38:26,400
in intro thoracic pressure he would pass

1028
00:38:28,950 --> 00:38:27,200
out

1029
00:38:30,950 --> 00:38:28,960
he'd come back there after a few minutes

1030
00:38:33,990 --> 00:38:30,960
and gradually go from purple back to

1031
00:38:35,510 --> 00:38:34,000
pink asking how long was i out for that

1032
00:38:39,030 --> 00:38:35,520
time

1033
00:38:41,349 --> 00:38:39,040
he was fully fine mentally sharp witty

1034
00:38:43,030 --> 00:38:41,359
and at peace with what was going on

1035
00:38:45,589 --> 00:38:43,040
what was going to eventually happen to

1036
00:38:50,310 --> 00:38:47,670
he was fully fine mentally sharp witty

1037
00:38:52,630 --> 00:38:50,320
and at peace with what with what was

1038
00:38:54,230 --> 00:38:52,640
going to eventually happen to him

1039
00:38:56,230 --> 00:38:54,240
he and i were joking that one of these

1040
00:38:57,910 --> 00:38:56,240
episodes was going to kill him as he

1041
00:39:00,310 --> 00:38:57,920
sipped his tea

1042
00:39:06,630 --> 00:39:00,320
talking rubbish five minutes later it

1043
00:39:10,390 --> 00:39:07,829
21.

1044
00:39:12,870 --> 00:39:10,400
i used to install medical alarms and one

1045
00:39:14,470 --> 00:39:12,880
client a nice sweet lady asked me to

1046
00:39:16,470 --> 00:39:14,480
call her pastor because

1047
00:39:18,390 --> 00:39:16,480
she wanted to tell him something i

1048
00:39:20,069 --> 00:39:18,400
called him but he was over two hours

1049
00:39:22,710 --> 00:39:20,079
away and she said it wouldn't be right

1050
00:39:25,109 --> 00:39:22,720
to do over the phone she said can i tell

1051
00:39:27,589 --> 00:39:25,119
you then

1052
00:39:29,270 --> 00:39:27,599
my first husband would beat and rape me

1053
00:39:31,750 --> 00:39:29,280
when he was drunk

1054
00:39:35,510 --> 00:39:31,760
so when he drank too much i put his gun

1055
00:39:37,910 --> 00:39:35,520
in his hand and shot him in the head

1056
00:39:39,430 --> 00:39:37,920
i had no idea what to say so she thanked

1057
00:39:41,190 --> 00:39:39,440
me and i said

1058
00:39:43,349 --> 00:39:41,200
and said i was a good kid

1059
00:39:45,349 --> 00:39:43,359
closed her eyes closed her eyes and

1060
00:39:46,710 --> 00:39:45,359
slumped over

1061
00:39:48,550 --> 00:39:46,720
yeah i don't know what do you say to

1062
00:39:50,150 --> 00:39:48,560
that um

1063
00:39:51,670 --> 00:39:50,160
but she got it off her chest that's what

1064
00:39:55,670 --> 00:39:51,680
she wanted to do shared the story and

1065
00:39:59,510 --> 00:39:57,670
the away don't leave me alone i really

1066
00:40:02,950 --> 00:39:59,520
don't know what that is

1067
00:40:05,910 --> 00:40:02,960
uh 23. physical therapist here

1068
00:40:08,230 --> 00:40:05,920
treated a man in his 90s who was a do

1069
00:40:11,589 --> 00:40:08,240
not resuscitate

1070
00:40:14,309 --> 00:40:11,599
i think dnis do not intubate

1071
00:40:17,109 --> 00:40:14,319
so if basically if the person

1072
00:40:18,710 --> 00:40:17,119
flatlines they do not you know if they

1073
00:40:21,030 --> 00:40:18,720
if they die they do not try to bring

1074
00:40:23,990 --> 00:40:21,040
them back

1075
00:40:25,750 --> 00:40:24,000
so this lady was this physical therapist

1076
00:40:28,550 --> 00:40:25,760
was treating a man in his 90s he was a

1077
00:40:30,150 --> 00:40:28,560
dnr dni at least once a week when i

1078
00:40:32,710 --> 00:40:30,160
would go into his room to start our

1079
00:40:34,950 --> 00:40:32,720
sessions he would cry and say i didn't

1080
00:40:36,550 --> 00:40:34,960
want to kill the kids after speaking to

1081
00:40:38,790 --> 00:40:36,560
his nurse it was revealed that he had

1082
00:40:40,950 --> 00:40:38,800
killed children in world war ii

1083
00:40:42,870 --> 00:40:40,960
during a session he collapsed and said

1084
00:40:44,950 --> 00:40:42,880
the kids are here to get me

1085
00:40:47,430 --> 00:40:44,960
however he wasn't displaying fear when

1086
00:40:49,109 --> 00:40:47,440
he verbalized this after he collapsed he

1087
00:40:50,630 --> 00:40:49,119
seemed at peace and died a few minutes

1088
00:40:52,950 --> 00:40:50,640
later

1089
00:40:54,790 --> 00:40:52,960
24 i had a patient get diagnosed with a

1090
00:40:57,349 --> 00:40:54,800
moderately aggressive but treatable

1091
00:40:59,270 --> 00:40:57,359
throat cancer we tried everything we

1092
00:41:02,069 --> 00:40:59,280
could think of to get him to consider

1093
00:41:03,670 --> 00:41:02,079
but he fused any type of treatment

1094
00:41:05,589 --> 00:41:03,680
after three months his wife had their

1095
00:41:08,230 --> 00:41:05,599
two adult sons carrying him into the

1096
00:41:09,829 --> 00:41:08,240
office at 4 50 p.m on a friday i was the

1097
00:41:11,670 --> 00:41:09,839
only nurse in the building and got him

1098
00:41:13,670 --> 00:41:11,680
into the exam room

1099
00:41:15,750 --> 00:41:13,680
he was completely gray and gaunt you

1100
00:41:18,069 --> 00:41:15,760
could hear how close the end was every

1101
00:41:19,990 --> 00:41:18,079
time he breathed it wasn't exactly a

1102
00:41:21,430 --> 00:41:20,000
death rattle but you just knew his lungs

1103
00:41:24,390 --> 00:41:21,440
were full of fluid

1104
00:41:26,790 --> 00:41:24,400
his sons sit him at the chair sit him in

1105
00:41:28,550 --> 00:41:26,800
a chair and he kept sliding out i stood

1106
00:41:30,470 --> 00:41:28,560
between his legs and held him upright in

1107
00:41:32,069 --> 00:41:30,480
the chair while i told the sons to go

1108
00:41:34,309 --> 00:41:32,079
get the doctor and told the wife to call

1109
00:41:36,630 --> 00:41:34,319
9-1-1 we all knew nothing was going to

1110
00:41:38,790 --> 00:41:36,640
keep this man alive much longer he

1111
00:41:41,589 --> 00:41:38,800
patted the side of my leg it was the

1112
00:41:43,589 --> 00:41:41,599
most he could move and whispered

1113
00:41:45,670 --> 00:41:43,599
i should have listened to you all i

1114
00:41:46,829 --> 00:41:45,680
don't want to die

1115
00:41:48,390 --> 00:41:46,839
bad story

1116
00:41:49,829 --> 00:41:48,400
um

1117
00:41:51,190 --> 00:41:49,839
hopefully we'll have some more uplifting

1118
00:41:53,910 --> 00:41:51,200
i don't remember i did read all these i

1119
00:41:55,510 --> 00:41:53,920
don't remember every one of them

1120
00:41:56,950 --> 00:41:55,520
um

1121
00:41:58,150 --> 00:41:56,960
this is you always hear about people who

1122
00:41:59,670 --> 00:41:58,160
are in love

1123
00:42:01,030 --> 00:41:59,680
they die within days of each other

1124
00:42:03,270 --> 00:42:01,040
because the one dies and the other one

1125
00:42:05,670 --> 00:42:03,280
can't go on without them

1126
00:42:07,109 --> 00:42:05,680
this is 25 my grandparents passed three

1127
00:42:08,550 --> 00:42:07,119
days apart from each other my

1128
00:42:10,710 --> 00:42:08,560
grandmother was diagnosed with lung

1129
00:42:12,150 --> 00:42:10,720
cancer halfway through her treatment she

1130
00:42:14,230 --> 00:42:12,160
told us she felt that her life was

1131
00:42:17,030 --> 00:42:14,240
fulfilled and she was stopping treatment

1132
00:42:18,710 --> 00:42:17,040
to pass peacefully stopping treatment to

1133
00:42:20,630 --> 00:42:18,720
pass peacefully

1134
00:42:22,550 --> 00:42:20,640
she was on a deathbed for a long time in

1135
00:42:24,790 --> 00:42:22,560
and out of consciousness but not

1136
00:42:25,750 --> 00:42:24,800
communicating often and only eating ice

1137
00:42:28,069 --> 00:42:25,760
chips

1138
00:42:30,390 --> 00:42:28,079
it tore my grandfather up

1139
00:42:32,309 --> 00:42:30,400
he was healthy and in pac in impeccable

1140
00:42:33,670 --> 00:42:32,319
shape he went to the gym until he was

1141
00:42:35,190 --> 00:42:33,680
90.

1142
00:42:37,030 --> 00:42:35,200
my grandfather was driving until he was

1143
00:42:38,790 --> 00:42:37,040
92.

1144
00:42:40,630 --> 00:42:38,800
one day he was at the grocery store and

1145
00:42:42,710 --> 00:42:40,640
had a heart attack

1146
00:42:44,230 --> 00:42:42,720
he died within minutes a few days later

1147
00:42:45,829 --> 00:42:44,240
my dad and i were sitting with my

1148
00:42:47,589 --> 00:42:45,839
grandmother now

1149
00:42:49,990 --> 00:42:47,599
from what i get they had not told the

1150
00:42:52,309 --> 00:42:50,000
grandmother yet

1151
00:42:53,910 --> 00:42:52,319
that the dad had passed i think but it

1152
00:42:55,750 --> 00:42:53,920
says a few days later my dad and i were

1153
00:42:57,430 --> 00:42:55,760
sitting with my grandmother in the

1154
00:43:00,950 --> 00:42:57,440
hospital my dad told her that my

1155
00:43:04,710 --> 00:43:02,790
my dad told her that my grandfather was

1156
00:43:06,870 --> 00:43:04,720
waiting for her whenever she was ready

1157
00:43:08,950 --> 00:43:06,880
so she wouldn't have to go alone my

1158
00:43:09,829 --> 00:43:08,960
grandmother spoke her first words in a

1159
00:43:12,790 --> 00:43:09,839
week

1160
00:43:15,750 --> 00:43:12,800
he's right here with me i see him my dad

1161
00:43:17,750 --> 00:43:15,760
asked what's he's wearing she giggled

1162
00:43:19,109 --> 00:43:17,760
he's in my favorite gray suit i think

1163
00:43:21,829 --> 00:43:19,119
we're going out

1164
00:43:23,829 --> 00:43:21,839
she passed that evening so another story

1165
00:43:25,750 --> 00:43:23,839
of seeing a dead relative

1166
00:43:27,910 --> 00:43:25,760
at the bedside of people who are about

1167
00:43:30,150 --> 00:43:27,920
to pass

1168
00:43:32,150 --> 00:43:30,160
and i would love i would love to think

1169
00:43:33,589 --> 00:43:32,160
it's really what it says it is i don't

1170
00:43:35,589 --> 00:43:33,599
know if it is i don't think it's just an

1171
00:43:37,829 --> 00:43:35,599
hallucination there are too many stories

1172
00:43:40,069 --> 00:43:37,839
like that um

1173
00:43:42,069 --> 00:43:40,079
there are stories of people seeing

1174
00:43:43,430 --> 00:43:42,079
there's a book called phantasms of the

1175
00:43:45,670 --> 00:43:43,440
living i think it was written in the

1176
00:43:46,870 --> 00:43:45,680
1800s it's just story after story of the

1177
00:43:48,630 --> 00:43:46,880
story

1178
00:43:50,390 --> 00:43:48,640
i think it's a society for psychical

1179
00:43:51,990 --> 00:43:50,400
research out of the uk

1180
00:43:54,069 --> 00:43:52,000
of people seeing

1181
00:43:55,430 --> 00:43:54,079
people who have died not always it's not

1182
00:43:57,510 --> 00:43:55,440
always somebody who have died but they

1183
00:43:58,790 --> 00:43:57,520
would see somebody and then

1184
00:44:00,870 --> 00:43:58,800
back then there was no communication

1185
00:44:02,390 --> 00:44:00,880
like the internet or phone so it's like

1186
00:44:04,309 --> 00:44:02,400
they wouldn't find out the person died

1187
00:44:06,230 --> 00:44:04,319
until weeks later so it's like how did

1188
00:44:08,550 --> 00:44:06,240
they know they saw that person at the

1189
00:44:10,630 --> 00:44:08,560
moment they died somehow they showed up

1190
00:44:11,750 --> 00:44:10,640
in the room so it's like i saw you i saw

1191
00:44:13,670 --> 00:44:11,760
that person

1192
00:44:14,870 --> 00:44:13,680
uh at the moment you know within minutes

1193
00:44:16,390 --> 00:44:14,880
of when they were pronounced dead and

1194
00:44:18,470 --> 00:44:16,400
they found out weeks later they had died

1195
00:44:20,790 --> 00:44:18,480
so how does that happen it's you know

1196
00:44:22,470 --> 00:44:20,800
that's that's

1197
00:44:25,750 --> 00:44:22,480
like i said it's over and over and over

1198
00:44:29,910 --> 00:44:27,990
26 we had a patient with a history of iv

1199
00:44:31,990 --> 00:44:29,920
drug use who'd been in the unit for over

1200
00:44:34,390 --> 00:44:32,000
a month she'd gotten sober months prior

1201
00:44:36,390 --> 00:44:34,400
but developed endocarditis which is a

1202
00:44:38,309 --> 00:44:36,400
swelling of the heart i believe she was

1203
00:44:40,870 --> 00:44:38,319
quiet sweet and reserved but always

1204
00:44:42,390 --> 00:44:40,880
thankful for her care she had no social

1205
00:44:44,069 --> 00:44:42,400
support

1206
00:44:46,069 --> 00:44:44,079
mother was the one who gave her drugs

1207
00:44:47,910 --> 00:44:46,079
the first time she had no contact with

1208
00:44:50,630 --> 00:44:47,920
anyone in her life except one friend who

1209
00:44:53,030 --> 00:44:50,640
came in weekly to check on her

1210
00:44:55,270 --> 00:44:53,040
on her 24th on her 24th birthday her

1211
00:44:57,510 --> 00:44:55,280
24th birthday we got her a cupcake and

1212
00:44:59,910 --> 00:44:57,520
little presents hung a banner in her

1213
00:45:01,990 --> 00:44:59,920
room and sang her happy birthday

1214
00:45:03,190 --> 00:45:02,000
she said thank you but didn't show much

1215
00:45:05,510 --> 00:45:03,200
emotion

1216
00:45:07,270 --> 00:45:05,520
we weren't entirely sure how she felt

1217
00:45:09,589 --> 00:45:07,280
that day she went into cardiac arrest

1218
00:45:11,670 --> 00:45:09,599
and died we spent 45 minutes trying to

1219
00:45:13,030 --> 00:45:11,680
get her back her friend came in to

1220
00:45:15,349 --> 00:45:13,040
collect her things and showed us the

1221
00:45:17,750 --> 00:45:15,359
message she had sent that day it was a

1222
00:45:20,150 --> 00:45:17,760
picture of the cupcake presents and a

1223
00:45:22,069 --> 00:45:20,160
banner and said i love my nurses i don't

1224
00:45:24,150 --> 00:45:22,079
know how to tell them but they're the

1225
00:45:25,910 --> 00:45:24,160
best family i've ever had

1226
00:45:30,309 --> 00:45:25,920
which i'm sure made the nurses feel

1227
00:45:35,030 --> 00:45:32,069
one of the patients who i have

1228
00:45:36,309 --> 00:45:35,040
not gotten to yet i will get to now was

1229
00:45:37,750 --> 00:45:36,319
bill

1230
00:45:40,390 --> 00:45:37,760
and his family afterwards were like

1231
00:45:41,990 --> 00:45:40,400
really so so appreciative that i had

1232
00:45:43,430 --> 00:45:42,000
spent time

1233
00:45:45,109 --> 00:45:43,440
with bill because they didn't really

1234
00:45:46,550 --> 00:45:45,119
have you know

1235
00:45:49,030 --> 00:45:46,560
time to see him all the time there were

1236
00:45:50,870 --> 00:45:49,040
some people there like frank never had a

1237
00:45:53,349 --> 00:45:50,880
visitor i think his sister came once

1238
00:45:55,670 --> 00:45:53,359
it's like the guy's dying it's like was

1239
00:45:57,829 --> 00:45:55,680
he that bad of a person that nobody in

1240
00:46:00,790 --> 00:45:57,839
his life came to visit him visit him

1241
00:46:02,069 --> 00:46:00,800
it's really sad um

1242
00:46:04,069 --> 00:46:02,079
there were other people like that too i

1243
00:46:07,670 --> 00:46:04,079
remember one older lady nobody i don't

1244
00:46:13,510 --> 00:46:12,309
the nurses were with her all the time um

1245
00:46:15,349 --> 00:46:13,520
so bill

1246
00:46:16,710 --> 00:46:15,359
had throat cancer

1247
00:46:19,910 --> 00:46:16,720
i guess the tumor was up against his

1248
00:46:21,510 --> 00:46:19,920
vocal cords so he talked like this hey

1249
00:46:23,349 --> 00:46:21,520
thanks for coming to see me that's how

1250
00:46:25,030 --> 00:46:23,359
he talked um

1251
00:46:26,870 --> 00:46:25,040
talked a lot too we talked about

1252
00:46:29,430 --> 00:46:26,880
everything

1253
00:46:30,870 --> 00:46:29,440
and um at one point

1254
00:46:33,190 --> 00:46:30,880
that tumor must have strung because i

1255
00:46:34,870 --> 00:46:33,200
went in one day and he started talking

1256
00:46:36,630 --> 00:46:34,880
normal i was like what the hell it's

1257
00:46:38,230 --> 00:46:36,640
like your voice is back he's like yeah i

1258
00:46:39,670 --> 00:46:38,240
don't know what happened

1259
00:46:41,190 --> 00:46:39,680
um

1260
00:46:43,430 --> 00:46:41,200
somebody had brought in his guitar and

1261
00:46:45,430 --> 00:46:43,440
he sang a song from my friend carol

1262
00:46:47,510 --> 00:46:45,440
carol is the one who trained me in the

1263
00:46:49,270 --> 00:46:47,520
danny and brinkley class she's the one

1264
00:46:50,950 --> 00:46:49,280
to train me she was with me a couple of

1265
00:46:51,910 --> 00:46:50,960
times she came to the hospital and he

1266
00:46:53,910 --> 00:46:51,920
sang

1267
00:46:57,349 --> 00:46:53,920
collisio which i think

1268
00:46:59,510 --> 00:46:57,359
hank williams jr maybe um

1269
00:47:01,829 --> 00:46:59,520
uh interesting carol started doing sesh

1270
00:47:02,630 --> 00:47:01,839
healing sessions on him one day

1271
00:47:04,309 --> 00:47:02,640
and

1272
00:47:05,829 --> 00:47:04,319
bill was worried that if he started

1273
00:47:07,589 --> 00:47:05,839
getting better they would throw him out

1274
00:47:09,270 --> 00:47:07,599
of palliative care because palliative

1275
00:47:10,950 --> 00:47:09,280
care is not

1276
00:47:13,430 --> 00:47:10,960
to get you better palliative care is to

1277
00:47:16,390 --> 00:47:13,440
reduce pain make you comfortable and get

1278
00:47:17,430 --> 00:47:16,400
you ready to die basically um

1279
00:47:19,910 --> 00:47:17,440
so

1280
00:47:20,710 --> 00:47:19,920
not

1281
00:47:21,829 --> 00:47:20,720
i don't know if there was a

1282
00:47:23,190 --> 00:47:21,839
psychological thing where he didn't want

1283
00:47:24,710 --> 00:47:23,200
to get better but he was worried about

1284
00:47:26,870 --> 00:47:24,720
getting thrown out so she stopped doing

1285
00:47:28,710 --> 00:47:26,880
the healing

1286
00:47:30,549 --> 00:47:28,720
like i said his family and john's family

1287
00:47:32,309 --> 00:47:30,559
the old 80 something year old guy they

1288
00:47:35,349 --> 00:47:32,319
were so happy that i was able to spend

1289
00:47:35,359 --> 00:47:40,390
i think that's it as far as my stories

1290
00:47:47,750 --> 00:47:42,470
yeah

1291
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:53,670
yahoo

1292
00:47:57,030 --> 00:47:54,630
all right

1293
00:47:58,549 --> 00:47:57,040
while in hospice 27 while in hospice my

1294
00:48:00,390 --> 00:47:58,559
grandma said to me

1295
00:48:02,870 --> 00:48:00,400
there are a great many things in this

1296
00:48:04,549 --> 00:48:02,880
world worse than dying

1297
00:48:07,030 --> 00:48:04,559
then she talked about how lucky she was

1298
00:48:08,549 --> 00:48:07,040
to have lived the life she did

1299
00:48:10,230 --> 00:48:08,559
i had never looked at death like that

1300
00:48:12,309 --> 00:48:10,240
before and that conversation truly

1301
00:48:15,349 --> 00:48:12,319
changed me and my outlook she was the

1302
00:48:17,270 --> 00:48:15,359
most wonderful person

1303
00:48:18,549 --> 00:48:17,280
my great uncle's last words before he

1304
00:48:20,390 --> 00:48:18,559
passed were

1305
00:48:21,910 --> 00:48:20,400
it is what it is

1306
00:48:24,069 --> 00:48:21,920
i know it's really common but i find

1307
00:48:28,870 --> 00:48:24,079
myself saying it quite a lot nowadays it

1308
00:48:32,549 --> 00:48:30,630
my brother was with a friend of his when

1309
00:48:34,230 --> 00:48:32,559
the friend had a massive heart attack

1310
00:48:37,190 --> 00:48:34,240
while waiting for an ambulance the guy

1311
00:48:38,870 --> 00:48:37,200
suddenly shouted oh it's coming

1312
00:48:41,829 --> 00:48:38,880
then looked at my brother dead in the

1313
00:48:45,430 --> 00:48:41,839
eye and said it was nice to know you

1314
00:48:46,829 --> 00:48:45,440
he died less than 30 seconds later

1315
00:48:49,589 --> 00:48:46,839
somehow we

1316
00:48:52,230 --> 00:48:49,599
know when my great uncle was on his

1317
00:48:54,069 --> 00:48:52,240
deathbed he asked the nurse hey

1318
00:48:56,630 --> 00:48:54,079
can you do me a favor and get go get my

1319
00:48:58,390 --> 00:48:56,640
car keys i'm ready to go the nurse went

1320
00:49:01,670 --> 00:48:58,400
to get the keys and he died before she

1321
00:49:07,829 --> 00:49:04,150
i said

1322
00:49:09,589 --> 00:49:07,839
well no and they can kind of decide when

1323
00:49:11,990 --> 00:49:09,599
i don't think everybody can just do that

1324
00:49:14,630 --> 00:49:12,000
but it seems like a lot of people can

1325
00:49:16,950 --> 00:49:14,640
31 there was an elderly gentleman who'd

1326
00:49:18,230 --> 00:49:16,960
come from an at-home hospice with stage

1327
00:49:20,549 --> 00:49:18,240
four cancer

1328
00:49:22,470 --> 00:49:20,559
during moments of lucidity he expressed

1329
00:49:24,790 --> 00:49:22,480
guilt over the pain he was causing his

1330
00:49:26,710 --> 00:49:24,800
loved ones he never once complained of

1331
00:49:28,549 --> 00:49:26,720
pain and denied pain medication because

1332
00:49:30,870 --> 00:49:28,559
someone else would need it

1333
00:49:32,790 --> 00:49:30,880
on his last night he said i want this to

1334
00:49:35,670 --> 00:49:32,800
be my final lesson to my family i want

1335
00:49:37,589 --> 00:49:35,680
to show them how to die with big dignity

1336
00:49:40,309 --> 00:49:37,599
moments later he asked if i could tell

1337
00:49:41,349 --> 00:49:40,319
him it was okay to die to find peace and

1338
00:49:43,030 --> 00:49:41,359
rest

1339
00:49:45,109 --> 00:49:43,040
he said he couldn't bear the thought of

1340
00:49:47,109 --> 00:49:45,119
of his family seeing him die he wanted

1341
00:49:49,510 --> 00:49:47,119
to hold on because he was their support

1342
00:49:50,790 --> 00:49:49,520
system but his pain was too much he was

1343
00:49:52,230 --> 00:49:50,800
ready

1344
00:49:54,069 --> 00:49:52,240
i told him he didn't need to keep

1345
00:49:55,990 --> 00:49:54,079
fighting for his family's comfort if he

1346
00:49:57,430 --> 00:49:56,000
was truly in pain and ready to go it'd

1347
00:49:59,510 --> 00:49:57,440
be okay to die

1348
00:50:02,150 --> 00:49:59,520
his family would understand

1349
00:50:04,549 --> 00:50:02,160
once i gave him the okay he started the

1350
00:50:07,430 --> 00:50:04,559
process delirium heavy breathing

1351
00:50:09,109 --> 00:50:07,440
breathing fidgeting and then death

1352
00:50:13,190 --> 00:50:09,119
rattle

1353
00:50:45,510 --> 00:50:15,349
another case of people being told it's

1354
00:50:48,950 --> 00:50:47,589
sorry my dog goes to these reverse

1355
00:50:51,829 --> 00:50:48,960
sneezing and it sounds like he's gonna

1356
00:50:52,790 --> 00:50:51,839
die he can't breathe so

1357
00:50:58,230 --> 00:50:52,800
not something you want to hear when

1358
00:51:01,589 --> 00:50:59,349
my mom's

1359
00:51:03,750 --> 00:51:01,599
my mom this is 32. my mom told me that

1360
00:51:05,030 --> 00:51:03,760
my grandma's last words were you want to

1361
00:51:07,109 --> 00:51:05,040
hear a joke

1362
00:51:09,030 --> 00:51:07,119
and then a long beep was the only noise

1363
00:51:10,950 --> 00:51:09,040
that filled the room in other words she

1364
00:51:12,309 --> 00:51:10,960
um flatlined

1365
00:51:14,390 --> 00:51:12,319
don't know if the grandmother was trying

1366
00:51:16,069 --> 00:51:14,400
to make that her joke

1367
00:51:17,910 --> 00:51:16,079
33

1368
00:51:19,750 --> 00:51:17,920
i worked as a nurse's aide in a nursing

1369
00:51:22,150 --> 00:51:19,760
home a gentleman in hospice was assigned

1370
00:51:24,470 --> 00:51:22,160
to my caseload and one night he seemed

1371
00:51:26,870 --> 00:51:24,480
off i explained what i was going to

1372
00:51:29,270 --> 00:51:26,880
what i explained what i was doing to

1373
00:51:31,430 --> 00:51:29,280
care for him but he sounded so angry and

1374
00:51:33,910 --> 00:51:31,440
confused i was new so i didn't know what

1375
00:51:35,589 --> 00:51:33,920
to do and pressed on he got so freaked

1376
00:51:37,190 --> 00:51:35,599
out that he took his oxygen tube and

1377
00:51:39,430 --> 00:51:37,200
tried to wrap it around my throat and

1378
00:51:41,109 --> 00:51:39,440
strangle me i got away told the nurse

1379
00:51:43,270 --> 00:51:41,119
and was told that confusion and

1380
00:51:46,150 --> 00:51:43,280
aggression were common when people were

1381
00:51:47,829 --> 00:51:46,160
dying regardless he needed his care i

1382
00:51:50,549 --> 00:51:47,839
went to him a few hours later and he

1383
00:51:52,470 --> 00:51:50,559
looked so docile and defeated his eyes

1384
00:51:55,270 --> 00:51:52,480
filled with tears as he looked at me and

1385
00:51:57,829 --> 00:51:55,280
said i'm really sorry for sorry for what

1386
00:51:59,190 --> 00:51:57,839
i did earlier ma'am that's not who i am

1387
00:52:01,190 --> 00:51:59,200
i'm so sorry

1388
00:52:02,710 --> 00:52:01,200
i told him it was okay and that i just

1389
00:52:05,750 --> 00:52:02,720
wanted to make him comfortable he

1390
00:52:08,470 --> 00:52:05,760
thanked me and said i'm going home

1391
00:52:10,950 --> 00:52:08,480
he kept repeating it and sounded so urge

1392
00:52:12,870 --> 00:52:10,960
and sounded so urgent i thought he was

1393
00:52:14,710 --> 00:52:12,880
still confused

1394
00:52:16,390 --> 00:52:14,720
he passed away one and a half hours

1395
00:52:19,829 --> 00:52:16,400
later

1396
00:52:21,670 --> 00:52:19,839
another sign that he knew it was coming

1397
00:52:23,750 --> 00:52:21,680
and the skeptic will say how many people

1398
00:52:25,910 --> 00:52:23,760
say they know it's coming and don't die

1399
00:52:27,990 --> 00:52:25,920
well yeah you know i don't have stats on

1400
00:52:29,750 --> 00:52:28,000
it so

1401
00:52:31,510 --> 00:52:29,760
these are just anecdotes take them for

1402
00:52:32,549 --> 00:52:31,520
what they are

1403
00:52:36,230 --> 00:52:32,559
34

1404
00:52:39,190 --> 00:52:36,240
i'm going to die i know i'm going to die

1405
00:52:41,910 --> 00:52:39,200
he was going for very routine fairly

1406
00:52:43,589 --> 00:52:41,920
minor surgery i held his hand and told

1407
00:52:46,549 --> 00:52:43,599
him he would be fine

1408
00:52:48,470 --> 00:52:46,559
he died shortly after the procedure

1409
00:52:50,150 --> 00:52:48,480
i mean i had my gallbladder out and of

1410
00:52:51,829 --> 00:52:50,160
course when you go under this anesthesia

1411
00:52:53,270 --> 00:52:51,839
you never know stuff can happen you know

1412
00:52:54,230 --> 00:52:53,280
complications

1413
00:52:55,430 --> 00:52:54,240
um

1414
00:52:57,349 --> 00:52:55,440
i don't know if my friend is still

1415
00:52:59,510 --> 00:52:57,359
listening but he's about to undergo some

1416
00:53:00,790 --> 00:52:59,520
major heart surgery um

1417
00:53:02,390 --> 00:53:00,800
but this is just you know these are

1418
00:53:03,670 --> 00:53:02,400
stories there are

1419
00:53:05,030 --> 00:53:03,680
obviously

1420
00:53:07,190 --> 00:53:05,040
thousands i don't know how many of

1421
00:53:08,790 --> 00:53:07,200
surgeries per day where people are fine

1422
00:53:10,870 --> 00:53:08,800
um these are the ones obviously that

1423
00:53:13,030 --> 00:53:10,880
made it into this article so it's kind

1424
00:53:14,790 --> 00:53:13,040
of a

1425
00:53:17,990 --> 00:53:14,800
specific

1426
00:53:19,990 --> 00:53:18,000
what the word i forget the word is um

1427
00:53:22,069 --> 00:53:20,000
skewed it's kind of a skewed uh

1428
00:53:23,270 --> 00:53:22,079
narrative here obviously the article the

1429
00:53:25,829 --> 00:53:23,280
stories that made it in here are gonna

1430
00:53:27,270 --> 00:53:25,839
be a little out of the ordinary

1431
00:53:29,589 --> 00:53:27,280
i do think the stuff happens all the

1432
00:53:31,349 --> 00:53:29,599
time but overall

1433
00:53:33,270 --> 00:53:31,359
this doesn't happen when people go into

1434
00:53:35,349 --> 00:53:33,280
the hospital

1435
00:53:38,150 --> 00:53:35,359
on average obviously because people have

1436
00:53:40,549 --> 00:53:38,160
surgeries all the time

1437
00:53:42,470 --> 00:53:40,559
35 i heard my patient talking to herself

1438
00:53:47,670 --> 00:53:42,480
so i went in to check on her she said

1439
00:53:50,630 --> 00:53:49,430
and asked

1440
00:53:52,309 --> 00:53:50,640
don't see him

1441
00:53:54,630 --> 00:53:52,319
he's sitting in the chair

1442
00:53:56,390 --> 00:53:54,640
that sent a chill down my spine and then

1443
00:53:58,309 --> 00:53:56,400
she coded a few minutes later

1444
00:53:59,670 --> 00:53:58,319
so she died after seeing her deceased

1445
00:54:01,349 --> 00:53:59,680
husband in the room

1446
00:54:02,549 --> 00:54:01,359
oh i do have another story a friend of

1447
00:54:05,270 --> 00:54:02,559
mine

1448
00:54:06,630 --> 00:54:05,280
uh he had surgery heart surgery um told

1449
00:54:08,150 --> 00:54:06,640
me afterwards that

1450
00:54:10,069 --> 00:54:08,160
right before they put him under he saw

1451
00:54:12,549 --> 00:54:10,079
some guy in a top hat in the room clear

1452
00:54:14,710 --> 00:54:12,559
his day nobody else saw him

1453
00:54:16,069 --> 00:54:14,720
he gave him the thumbs up

1454
00:54:17,910 --> 00:54:16,079
and then he had a surgery and he was

1455
00:54:19,670 --> 00:54:17,920
fine uh next time he had surgery he

1456
00:54:21,109 --> 00:54:19,680
didn't make it i don't know if he saw

1457
00:54:25,910 --> 00:54:21,119
anything the second time i didn't get to

1458
00:54:30,549 --> 00:54:28,230
36. you know what's funny everyone says

1459
00:54:33,030 --> 00:54:30,559
living is the hard part part

1460
00:54:34,710 --> 00:54:33,040
no dying is much harder than living a

1461
00:54:36,549 --> 00:54:34,720
cancer patient in the 40s who was

1462
00:54:38,390 --> 00:54:36,559
incredibly active and athletic up until

1463
00:54:40,390 --> 00:54:38,400
their diagnosis said this to me as a

1464
00:54:43,510 --> 00:54:40,400
student in my hospice clinical

1465
00:54:45,910 --> 00:54:43,520
it stuck with me ever since

1466
00:54:47,990 --> 00:54:45,920
yeah i i i saw it with

1467
00:54:49,829 --> 00:54:48,000
my mom and cancer she had other problems

1468
00:54:51,510 --> 00:54:49,839
too but yeah

1469
00:54:54,549 --> 00:54:51,520
that's not

1470
00:54:56,630 --> 00:54:54,559
a battle not an easy way to go

1471
00:54:57,910 --> 00:54:56,640
37 i worked in a nursing home and a lot

1472
00:55:00,150 --> 00:54:57,920
of the people

1473
00:55:02,470 --> 00:55:00,160
who were dying saw their spouses who had

1474
00:55:06,390 --> 00:55:02,480
passed before them

1475
00:55:08,309 --> 00:55:06,400
one lovely old lady once said one

1476
00:55:10,950 --> 00:55:08,319
this is this probably is my favorite

1477
00:55:11,990 --> 00:55:10,960
story and it makes me wonder

1478
00:55:14,150 --> 00:55:12,000
um

1479
00:55:17,030 --> 00:55:14,160
about the true

1480
00:55:19,750 --> 00:55:17,040
identity of people who show up in the i

1481
00:55:21,430 --> 00:55:19,760
know people don't want to hear this but

1482
00:55:23,510 --> 00:55:21,440
here's the story i worked in a nursing

1483
00:55:25,030 --> 00:55:23,520
home this is 37. i worked in a nursing

1484
00:55:27,510 --> 00:55:25,040
home and a lot of the people who were

1485
00:55:28,870 --> 00:55:27,520
dying saw their spouses who had passed

1486
00:55:31,430 --> 00:55:28,880
before them

1487
00:55:33,670 --> 00:55:31,440
one lovely old lady once said her

1488
00:55:36,470 --> 00:55:33,680
husband was in the room when i told her

1489
00:55:41,270 --> 00:55:36,480
it was okay to go with him she said oh

1490
00:55:43,510 --> 00:55:41,280
my god no i hate him i'm scared of him

1491
00:55:45,270 --> 00:55:43,520
she then started to cry all i could do

1492
00:55:46,870 --> 00:55:45,280
was hold her hand and tell her i would

1493
00:55:48,870 --> 00:55:46,880
send him away

1494
00:55:51,190 --> 00:55:48,880
she passed very shortly after that with

1495
00:55:53,750 --> 00:55:51,200
a smile on her face

1496
00:55:55,829 --> 00:55:53,760
i hope he wasn't there for her

1497
00:55:59,670 --> 00:55:55,839
so that makes you wonder it's like

1498
00:56:03,190 --> 00:55:59,680
putting aside the hallucination um

1499
00:56:05,829 --> 00:56:03,200
theory that i'm sure skeptics would say

1500
00:56:07,270 --> 00:56:05,839
you know if

1501
00:56:08,549 --> 00:56:07,280
if it really was her husband who she

1502
00:56:10,710 --> 00:56:08,559
hated why would he show up at her

1503
00:56:12,230 --> 00:56:10,720
deathbed if it's if it's what it looks

1504
00:56:14,390 --> 00:56:12,240
like um that's why i'm like was it

1505
00:56:16,630 --> 00:56:14,400
really her husband you know

1506
00:56:17,430 --> 00:56:16,640
or was it something pretending to be

1507
00:56:20,309 --> 00:56:17,440
there

1508
00:56:22,309 --> 00:56:20,319
was her husband so when she died

1509
00:56:23,829 --> 00:56:22,319
this whatever could take her to wherever

1510
00:56:25,750 --> 00:56:23,839
it wanted her to go and then we start

1511
00:56:27,829 --> 00:56:25,760
getting into the old

1512
00:56:30,150 --> 00:56:27,839
uh theory that the farsight

1513
00:56:32,230 --> 00:56:30,160
uh farsight institute remote viewing

1514
00:56:34,230 --> 00:56:32,240
says you know we go to death traps they

1515
00:56:36,390 --> 00:56:34,240
wipe our memories and then they force us

1516
00:56:38,230 --> 00:56:36,400
to reincarnate back on this planet and i

1517
00:56:39,270 --> 00:56:38,240
know i know folks who are into new age

1518
00:56:42,470 --> 00:56:39,280
topics

1519
00:56:44,950 --> 00:56:42,480
hate me when i talk about that um

1520
00:56:46,390 --> 00:56:44,960
it's remote viewing data that has not

1521
00:56:47,829 --> 00:56:46,400
been confirmed and i don't know i don't

1522
00:56:49,670 --> 00:56:47,839
know how you could ever confirm that but

1523
00:56:51,589 --> 00:56:49,680
i have read other books where they said

1524
00:56:53,270 --> 00:56:51,599
when you die and you see the light

1525
00:56:54,390 --> 00:56:53,280
don't go towards the light because it's

1526
00:56:55,349 --> 00:56:54,400
a trick

1527
00:56:57,349 --> 00:56:55,359
um

1528
00:56:59,270 --> 00:56:57,359
so

1529
00:57:01,030 --> 00:56:59,280
and then you have that uh

1530
00:57:03,990 --> 00:57:01,040
one of the gnostic texts that talks

1531
00:57:06,710 --> 00:57:04,000
about how jesus's brother james

1532
00:57:08,630 --> 00:57:06,720
james the just he had the i think jesus

1533
00:57:11,109 --> 00:57:08,640
told him the pastor's passwords he

1534
00:57:13,589 --> 00:57:11,119
needed to get by the archons the the

1535
00:57:15,190 --> 00:57:13,599
mighty archons that guard the afterlife

1536
00:57:17,270 --> 00:57:15,200
so you can't get to the afterlife unless

1537
00:57:19,030 --> 00:57:17,280
you know the passwords uh obviously

1538
00:57:20,710 --> 00:57:19,040
that's symbolic of something i don't

1539
00:57:21,990 --> 00:57:20,720
know what it is

1540
00:57:23,670 --> 00:57:22,000
somebody said maybe you know you have to

1541
00:57:25,829 --> 00:57:23,680
achieve a certain state of awareness

1542
00:57:30,789 --> 00:57:25,839
meditation those are the passwords to

1543
00:57:34,549 --> 00:57:32,950
but that story made me think a lot about

1544
00:57:36,710 --> 00:57:34,559
some of the

1545
00:57:38,870 --> 00:57:36,720
uh the conspiracy theories about death

1546
00:57:43,670 --> 00:57:38,880
and i've heard other people who are very

1547
00:57:48,870 --> 00:57:45,750
reincarnation and how

1548
00:57:50,390 --> 00:57:48,880
it may not be exactly and exactly what

1549
00:57:52,789 --> 00:57:50,400
it appears to be

1550
00:57:55,030 --> 00:57:52,799
in a negative sense and

1551
00:57:57,270 --> 00:57:55,040
i do think there's evidence very

1552
00:57:59,109 --> 00:57:57,280
consistent with what you would expect if

1553
00:58:01,510 --> 00:57:59,119
reincarnation was real whether

1554
00:58:03,829 --> 00:58:01,520
reincarnation is real i don't know uh

1555
00:58:06,069 --> 00:58:03,839
the over four thousand cases cases that

1556
00:58:07,510 --> 00:58:06,079
ian stevenson from the university of

1557
00:58:09,109 --> 00:58:07,520
virginia the children's cases of

1558
00:58:11,829 --> 00:58:09,119
reincarnation some of them are so

1559
00:58:14,309 --> 00:58:11,839
amazing they're consistent with what you

1560
00:58:17,270 --> 00:58:14,319
would expect if reincarnation was real

1561
00:58:19,030 --> 00:58:17,280
that doesn't prove reincarnation is real

1562
00:58:20,549 --> 00:58:19,040
as my grandfather said when i said

1563
00:58:23,670 --> 00:58:20,559
grandpa you believe in reincarnation

1564
00:58:26,710 --> 00:58:23,680
he's like i'll know when i get there

1565
00:58:28,630 --> 00:58:26,720
um 38 when my sister was on her deathbed

1566
00:58:31,030 --> 00:58:28,640
she would point out and ask who the

1567
00:58:32,069 --> 00:58:31,040
people were in her room but no one else

1568
00:58:33,910 --> 00:58:32,079
was there

1569
00:58:36,069 --> 00:58:33,920
i'd then see her having conversations

1570
00:58:37,589 --> 00:58:36,079
with these invisible people i finally

1571
00:58:39,510 --> 00:58:37,599
asked her what she was talking about and

1572
00:58:41,270 --> 00:58:39,520
with whom she said she was talking to

1573
00:58:43,589 --> 00:58:41,280
our grandfather who had died 20 years

1574
00:58:47,030 --> 00:58:43,599
prior and that he told her he was there

1575
00:58:52,309 --> 00:58:50,150
so and i talked about this earlier today

1576
00:58:53,829 --> 00:58:52,319
with somebody

1577
00:58:55,589 --> 00:58:53,839
so her grandfather was there to help her

1578
00:58:57,430 --> 00:58:55,599
cross over you hear that all the time is

1579
00:58:59,030 --> 00:58:57,440
it really that difficult to cross over

1580
00:59:00,710 --> 00:58:59,040
that we need somebody to help us cross

1581
00:59:02,950 --> 00:59:00,720
over it's like

1582
00:59:05,910 --> 00:59:02,960
when you die is there is there should be

1583
00:59:07,910 --> 00:59:05,920
a sign that says this way to cross over

1584
00:59:09,430 --> 00:59:07,920
so it's really to me that's really odd

1585
00:59:11,829 --> 00:59:09,440
to take it on face value somebody's

1586
00:59:13,349 --> 00:59:11,839
there to help us uh otherwise if not

1587
00:59:14,710 --> 00:59:13,359
we're gonna be stuck and we're gonna get

1588
00:59:16,390 --> 00:59:14,720
lost and we're gonna go to the wrong

1589
00:59:19,510 --> 00:59:16,400
place

1590
00:59:20,789 --> 00:59:19,520
i don't know um but you hear that a lot

1591
00:59:23,270 --> 00:59:20,799
you know they were there to help them

1592
00:59:24,069 --> 00:59:23,280
cross over to the other side

1593
00:59:25,910 --> 00:59:24,079
but

1594
00:59:27,990 --> 00:59:25,920
she told her grandfather i'm sorry i'm

1595
00:59:30,230 --> 00:59:28,000
not ready to go

1596
00:59:31,990 --> 00:59:30,240
he said well that's your decision

1597
00:59:34,630 --> 00:59:32,000
when you're ready to take my hand i will

1598
00:59:36,870 --> 00:59:34,640
guide you across

1599
00:59:38,710 --> 00:59:36,880
well what if he's busy that day

1600
00:59:39,750 --> 00:59:38,720
he's not going to know how to cross over

1601
00:59:41,829 --> 00:59:39,760
you would think that's something

1602
00:59:42,950 --> 00:59:41,839
instinctual apparently not

1603
00:59:45,109 --> 00:59:42,960
i'm obviously being a little

1604
00:59:47,430 --> 00:59:45,119
light-hearted here but

1605
00:59:49,030 --> 00:59:47,440
it just doesn't make sense to me 39 my

1606
00:59:51,990 --> 00:59:49,040
great-grandmother got sick when she was

1607
00:59:54,390 --> 00:59:52,000
about 94. she had a flu and a really bad

1608
00:59:57,109 --> 00:59:54,400
fever i remember her crying and yelling

1609
00:59:58,789 --> 00:59:57,119
the name fritz i can see fritz

1610
01:00:00,230 --> 00:59:58,799
i can see fritz

1611
01:00:02,069 --> 01:00:00,240
rich was her brother who passed away

1612
01:00:03,750 --> 01:00:02,079
when he was five almost a century

1613
01:00:04,710 --> 01:00:03,760
beforehand

1614
01:00:06,150 --> 01:00:04,720
forty

1615
01:00:07,990 --> 01:00:06,160
ten more left

1616
01:00:10,710 --> 01:00:08,000
one night i was giving an elderly lady

1617
01:00:13,349 --> 01:00:10,720
who was pleasantly confused a bath and i

1618
01:00:17,030 --> 01:00:13,359
asked her how she was doing she goes

1619
01:00:19,670 --> 01:00:17,040
i'm a dnr baby i'm doing just fine

1620
01:00:25,190 --> 01:00:19,680
she passed 30 minutes later

1621
01:00:54,829 --> 01:00:27,430
41 i'm only 18.

1622
01:01:00,630 --> 01:00:58,309
this you pj mike for the donation i

1623
01:01:03,190 --> 01:01:00,640
forgot to look at the chat

1624
01:01:08,789 --> 01:01:05,349
you know i don't want to i know this is

1625
01:01:09,990 --> 01:01:08,799
not the best things to say

1626
01:01:13,270 --> 01:01:10,000
these stories these are what people

1627
01:01:14,150 --> 01:01:13,280
report so um like i said i

1628
01:01:15,829 --> 01:01:14,160
i am

1629
01:01:19,349 --> 01:01:15,839
fairly confident there is something

1630
01:01:22,069 --> 01:01:19,359
after this life what exactly it is how

1631
01:01:24,549 --> 01:01:22,079
we transition i don't know

1632
01:01:27,430 --> 01:01:24,559
uh is it connected to the world of ufos

1633
01:01:31,910 --> 01:01:27,440
and the phenomenon

1634
01:01:32,870 --> 01:01:31,920
i think so um how i don't know

1635
01:01:34,470 --> 01:01:32,880
and

1636
01:01:36,150 --> 01:01:34,480
bug says if i saw the light it would be

1637
01:01:37,589 --> 01:01:36,160
so tempting to head towards the light of

1638
01:01:39,510 --> 01:01:37,599
course i mean you hear that all the time

1639
01:01:41,349 --> 01:01:39,520
people who have near the theory of death

1640
01:01:43,030 --> 01:01:41,359
near-death experiences they like to see

1641
01:01:45,349 --> 01:01:43,040
this beautiful light

1642
01:01:47,030 --> 01:01:45,359
um but then

1643
01:01:48,230 --> 01:01:47,040
they're like you know what i'm not ready

1644
01:01:50,710 --> 01:01:48,240
to go

1645
01:01:52,870 --> 01:01:50,720
um and then you hear stories people who

1646
01:01:55,109 --> 01:01:52,880
have had close encounters and they have

1647
01:01:57,430 --> 01:01:55,119
this wonderful feeling of love and some

1648
01:01:59,670 --> 01:01:57,440
of them are like or fear

1649
01:02:01,349 --> 01:01:59,680
uh an incredible amount of fear that is

1650
01:02:03,589 --> 01:02:01,359
much more than you would expect in the

1651
01:02:05,029 --> 01:02:03,599
situation so it's almost like i'm really

1652
01:02:07,990 --> 01:02:05,039
going off on a tangent here but it's

1653
01:02:11,510 --> 01:02:08,000
like this this intelligence can create

1654
01:02:12,549 --> 01:02:11,520
a fake emotion in us so

1655
01:02:16,150 --> 01:02:12,559
it's

1656
01:02:19,910 --> 01:02:17,829
how do we trust anything and i've said

1657
01:02:22,390 --> 01:02:19,920
this before with our experiences if it

1658
01:02:23,990 --> 01:02:22,400
can manipulate our emotions and our

1659
01:02:24,789 --> 01:02:24,000
perceptions

1660
01:02:26,549 --> 01:02:24,799
so

1661
01:02:28,710 --> 01:02:26,559
i don't know how how the hell we figure

1662
01:02:35,829 --> 01:02:28,720
that out

1663
01:02:41,589 --> 01:02:38,789
yeah i mean i am by far not an expert

1664
01:02:44,309 --> 01:02:41,599
not even close on gnosticism one day

1665
01:02:45,589 --> 01:02:44,319
yeah i mean on gnosticism so

1666
01:02:47,750 --> 01:02:45,599
um

1667
01:02:50,069 --> 01:02:47,760
i should try to find a really smart

1668
01:02:51,589 --> 01:02:50,079
guest about narcissism and have them on

1669
01:02:53,109 --> 01:02:51,599
because

1670
01:03:01,430 --> 01:02:53,119
i would bore you with my lack of

1671
01:03:06,549 --> 01:03:03,589
i'm only 18.

1672
01:03:08,710 --> 01:03:06,559
that never leaves you

1673
01:03:10,710 --> 01:03:08,720
she had skin cancer all over from a

1674
01:03:12,470 --> 01:03:10,720
childhood event her cousin had pushed

1675
01:03:14,710 --> 01:03:12,480
her into boiling water and she

1676
01:03:17,190 --> 01:03:14,720
eventually couldn't even roll over with

1677
01:03:19,029 --> 01:03:17,200
out writhing and pain it was the worst

1678
01:03:23,430 --> 01:03:19,039
experience

1679
01:03:25,589 --> 01:03:23,440
this person said i shortly left

1680
01:03:26,870 --> 01:03:25,599
inpatient nursing after that like i said

1681
01:03:28,630 --> 01:03:26,880
some of these stories i wouldn't have

1682
01:03:30,470 --> 01:03:28,640
included but i guess

1683
01:03:33,270 --> 01:03:30,480
whoever made this yahoo article said i'm

1684
01:03:34,710 --> 01:03:33,280
just going to include everything because

1685
01:03:36,309 --> 01:03:34,720
you know it's not really about dying

1686
01:03:39,109 --> 01:03:36,319
it's just a horrible

1687
01:03:41,430 --> 01:03:39,119
horrible event

1688
01:03:43,589 --> 01:03:41,440
my spouse's grandfather passed away last

1689
01:03:45,829 --> 01:03:43,599
autumn he was a biologist and loved

1690
01:03:47,670 --> 01:03:45,839
nature before he had passed away

1691
01:03:50,630 --> 01:03:47,680
he had explained he had seen another

1692
01:03:52,390 --> 01:03:50,640
dimension and how all life was connected

1693
01:03:55,029 --> 01:03:52,400
he told his children that he wished they

1694
01:03:56,069 --> 01:03:55,039
would meet again as molecules in a

1695
01:03:57,430 --> 01:03:56,079
flower

1696
01:03:59,670 --> 01:03:57,440
i thought i thought these things were

1697
01:04:01,510 --> 01:03:59,680
beautiful and reflected well on his life

1698
01:04:03,829 --> 01:04:01,520
as someone who dedicated his time to

1699
01:04:05,829 --> 01:04:03,839
learning about nature and its wonders

1700
01:04:09,910 --> 01:04:05,839
sounds like somebody in our

1701
01:04:13,750 --> 01:04:11,670
he had the most amazing life and passed

1702
01:04:16,549 --> 01:04:13,760
away so peacefully

1703
01:04:18,710 --> 01:04:16,559
um was a well-deserved end for a man as

1704
01:04:22,309 --> 01:04:18,720
good as he was so there are lots of good

1705
01:04:22,319 --> 01:04:28,069
uh 43 a family friend of mine

1706
01:04:31,990 --> 01:04:30,230
family friend had a very young niece who

1707
01:04:34,069 --> 01:04:32,000
was dying from cancer her parents were

1708
01:04:37,430 --> 01:04:34,079
there to comfort her in the final hours

1709
01:04:39,430 --> 01:04:37,440
and one of the last things she asked was

1710
01:04:40,710 --> 01:04:39,440
how do i die

1711
01:04:42,710 --> 01:04:40,720
um

1712
01:04:45,430 --> 01:04:42,720
there may be a there may be something we

1713
01:04:47,270 --> 01:04:45,440
can do to prepare for the afterlife

1714
01:04:49,349 --> 01:04:47,280
you know assuming there's an afterlife

1715
01:04:52,069 --> 01:04:49,359
and i do think there is

1716
01:04:53,430 --> 01:04:52,079
there may be exercises we can do and

1717
01:04:55,029 --> 01:04:53,440
you know

1718
01:04:56,789 --> 01:04:55,039
maybe one day

1719
01:04:58,549 --> 01:04:56,799
when people are less afraid to speak

1720
01:05:00,549 --> 01:04:58,559
about it we can have

1721
01:05:01,910 --> 01:05:00,559
discussions and classes on what to

1722
01:05:03,589 --> 01:05:01,920
expect

1723
01:05:05,109 --> 01:05:03,599
robert bigelow talks about it that's why

1724
01:05:06,230 --> 01:05:05,119
he has that part of bix the

1725
01:05:09,589 --> 01:05:06,240
consciousness

1726
01:05:11,190 --> 01:05:09,599
aspect more important than ufos because

1727
01:05:12,710 --> 01:05:11,200
we're all going there

1728
01:05:14,230 --> 01:05:12,720
so if there's something we can do to

1729
01:05:16,549 --> 01:05:14,240
prepare for it

1730
01:05:17,750 --> 01:05:16,559
uh we should learn about it

1731
01:05:21,109 --> 01:05:17,760
but it's something most people don't

1732
01:05:24,870 --> 01:05:22,390
44.

1733
01:05:27,029 --> 01:05:24,880
and basically in this other one it was a

1734
01:05:29,990 --> 01:05:27,039
very young niece asking how do i die i

1735
01:05:31,750 --> 01:05:30,000
mean how do you how do you answer that

1736
01:05:34,150 --> 01:05:31,760
right now our answer would be we don't

1737
01:05:35,910 --> 01:05:34,160
know you know we don't know we don't

1738
01:05:37,430 --> 01:05:35,920
oh there's the book of the dead i don't

1739
01:05:39,029 --> 01:05:37,440
know about the book of dead i can't

1740
01:05:40,950 --> 01:05:39,039
quote the book of the dead but there are

1741
01:05:43,349 --> 01:05:40,960
certain things that we're supposed to do

1742
01:05:44,950 --> 01:05:43,359
um obviously that might be outdated for

1743
01:05:45,670 --> 01:05:44,960
the time and knowledge they had back

1744
01:05:46,470 --> 01:05:45,680
then

1745
01:05:47,750 --> 01:05:46,480
um

1746
01:05:50,630 --> 01:05:47,760
even though they may have known a lot

1747
01:05:51,430 --> 01:05:50,640
more about certain things than we do now

1748
01:05:53,750 --> 01:05:51,440
but

1749
01:05:56,230 --> 01:05:53,760
number 44 when my grandpa was dying he

1750
01:05:58,470 --> 01:05:56,240
was in full blown sundowners

1751
01:06:00,150 --> 01:05:58,480
he wasn't coherent couldn't really speak

1752
01:06:02,230 --> 01:06:00,160
except in the early mornings and was

1753
01:06:05,349 --> 01:06:02,240
hallucinating all sorts of things like

1754
01:06:07,190 --> 01:06:05,359
dead family members

1755
01:06:09,430 --> 01:06:07,200
most of his communication was just

1756
01:06:12,710 --> 01:06:09,440
paranoia about the nurses trying to kill

1757
01:06:14,470 --> 01:06:12,720
him i was a young teen so my mom didn't

1758
01:06:17,029 --> 01:06:14,480
really want me to be around him when he

1759
01:06:19,029 --> 01:06:17,039
was like this the last time i saw him

1760
01:06:20,870 --> 01:06:19,039
something clicked on in his head it's

1761
01:06:23,670 --> 01:06:20,880
like he fought through the cloud of

1762
01:06:27,029 --> 01:06:23,680
unreality in his head made direct eye

1763
01:06:29,430 --> 01:06:27,039
contact with me and grabbed my hand

1764
01:06:31,750 --> 01:06:29,440
and he said determination

1765
01:06:33,829 --> 01:06:31,760
that's what's important and that's all

1766
01:06:35,829 --> 01:06:33,839
he said but it was like he knew it was

1767
01:06:37,589 --> 01:06:35,839
the last time he would see me it was

1768
01:06:40,309 --> 01:06:37,599
like someone said all right you've got

1769
01:06:42,230 --> 01:06:40,319
four words make him count

1770
01:06:44,309 --> 01:06:42,240
immediately after that he went back to a

1771
01:06:47,109 --> 01:06:44,319
semi-vegetative state and reverted to

1772
01:06:49,349 --> 01:06:47,119
mumbling he died not long after that and

1773
01:06:52,710 --> 01:06:49,359
those words have pulled me through

1774
01:06:54,150 --> 01:06:52,720
some of my toughest days

1775
01:06:57,430 --> 01:06:54,160
and remember the four words were

1776
01:06:59,510 --> 01:06:57,440
determination that's what's important

1777
01:07:01,589 --> 01:06:59,520
and she's closes but it was like the

1778
01:07:02,950 --> 01:07:01,599
last lesson he had for me and he had to

1779
01:07:04,950 --> 01:07:02,960
tell me this

1780
01:07:06,870 --> 01:07:04,960
it took me a long time to really

1781
01:07:08,950 --> 01:07:06,880
understand those words but i faked it

1782
01:07:10,309 --> 01:07:08,960
until i made it thanks grandpa you were

1783
01:07:11,510 --> 01:07:10,319
the best

1784
01:07:13,430 --> 01:07:11,520
45

1785
01:07:15,349 --> 01:07:13,440
i'm a hospice chaplain and worked in a

1786
01:07:18,470 --> 01:07:15,359
hospital for a time

1787
01:07:20,470 --> 01:07:18,480
um hold on i'm gonna tell a quick story

1788
01:07:24,390 --> 01:07:20,480
about my ex-wife who went out to take

1789
01:07:26,150 --> 01:07:24,400
the dog and um i can talk more freely

1790
01:07:28,630 --> 01:07:26,160
so when i met her

1791
01:07:29,870 --> 01:07:28,640
she was part of my newsletter i had

1792
01:07:32,630 --> 01:07:29,880
back in

1793
01:07:35,589 --> 01:07:32,640
2001 i started a little earlier opened

1794
01:07:38,549 --> 01:07:35,599
my news i covered paranormal ufos life

1795
01:07:39,510 --> 01:07:38,559
after death reincarnation everything

1796
01:07:41,910 --> 01:07:39,520
um

1797
01:07:43,430 --> 01:07:41,920
third-party politics i was covering at

1798
01:07:45,829 --> 01:07:43,440
the time interviewed a couple of people

1799
01:07:47,430 --> 01:07:45,839
ralph nader john hagelin who were

1800
01:07:50,470 --> 01:07:47,440
natural they were both candidates for

1801
01:07:53,029 --> 01:07:50,480
president i think in 2000 the whole gore

1802
01:07:55,589 --> 01:07:53,039
gore bush debacle in florida

1803
01:07:58,230 --> 01:07:55,599
interviewed them about ufos

1804
01:08:00,470 --> 01:07:58,240
uh nader's response was foia hegelin

1805
01:08:02,390 --> 01:08:00,480
talked about quantum mechanics

1806
01:08:04,630 --> 01:08:02,400
uh so

1807
01:08:06,950 --> 01:08:04,640
one of the readers of my newsletter was

1808
01:08:08,950 --> 01:08:06,960
this girl in queens she wrote me and she

1809
01:08:11,670 --> 01:08:08,960
said hey my husband just passed away do

1810
01:08:13,829 --> 01:08:11,680
you know of any sites that help people

1811
01:08:15,430 --> 01:08:13,839
deal with bereavement

1812
01:08:16,789 --> 01:08:15,440
so i said yeah here's here's some stuff

1813
01:08:17,829 --> 01:08:16,799
and next thing you know i was in long

1814
01:08:18,870 --> 01:08:17,839
island

1815
01:08:20,470 --> 01:08:18,880
and

1816
01:08:21,749 --> 01:08:20,480
i said

1817
01:08:23,430 --> 01:08:21,759
we should get together she's like yeah

1818
01:08:24,550 --> 01:08:23,440
i'm going back to spain he just died i

1819
01:08:25,990 --> 01:08:24,560
don't really want to be here it's kind

1820
01:08:28,390 --> 01:08:26,000
of hard for me to be here now too many

1821
01:08:29,990 --> 01:08:28,400
memories i said before you go back to

1822
01:08:32,309 --> 01:08:30,000
spain

1823
01:08:33,749 --> 01:08:32,319
we should meet so we met

1824
01:08:35,990 --> 01:08:33,759
and

1825
01:08:37,110 --> 01:08:36,000
long story short when wound up getting

1826
01:08:41,269 --> 01:08:37,120
married

1827
01:08:42,309 --> 01:08:41,279
um

1828
01:08:44,470 --> 01:08:42,319
anyway

1829
01:08:47,269 --> 01:08:44,480
her husband

1830
01:08:49,990 --> 01:08:47,279
she met him in new york uh they got

1831
01:08:52,470 --> 01:08:50,000
married in las vegas on vacation

1832
01:08:54,149 --> 01:08:52,480
went back to new york living there he

1833
01:08:56,950 --> 01:08:54,159
goes to work on a job

1834
01:09:00,070 --> 01:08:56,960
uh putting a bar constructing a bar

1835
01:09:02,709 --> 01:09:00,080
inside of a casino in las vegas

1836
01:09:04,870 --> 01:09:02,719
it goes up to this ledge

1837
01:09:06,470 --> 01:09:04,880
i'll make this very short

1838
01:09:10,709 --> 01:09:06,480
where they were bringing equipment up

1839
01:09:15,269 --> 01:09:12,550
and um so the rope was like you know i

1840
01:09:16,789 --> 01:09:15,279
would use this rope anyway

1841
01:09:18,630 --> 01:09:16,799
he put the rope around his neck he was

1842
01:09:21,189 --> 01:09:18,640
with somebody at the time slipped off

1843
01:09:23,669 --> 01:09:21,199
the ledge or jumped off and died

1844
01:09:25,990 --> 01:09:23,679
instantly hung himself and

1845
01:09:27,749 --> 01:09:26,000
this was on the job site and he had no

1846
01:09:31,110 --> 01:09:27,759
id you know she had no idea if it was on

1847
01:09:34,789 --> 01:09:31,120
purpose or not um if it was an accident

1848
01:09:36,789 --> 01:09:34,799
i actually hired a medium for her lori

1849
01:09:38,630 --> 01:09:36,799
laurie williams who was a famous medium

1850
01:09:40,229 --> 01:09:38,640
and to see if anything like that came

1851
01:09:41,910 --> 01:09:40,239
out information wise you know was it

1852
01:09:42,950 --> 01:09:41,920
wasn't on purpose was it an accident but

1853
01:09:47,510 --> 01:09:42,960
that

1854
01:09:50,950 --> 01:09:47,520
turns out so we wound up moving to las

1855
01:09:53,510 --> 01:09:50,960
vegas and make a very long story short

1856
01:09:55,510 --> 01:09:53,520
we live if i would take this laptop and

1857
01:09:57,510 --> 01:09:55,520
point it out the back you could see the

1858
01:09:58,950 --> 01:09:57,520
casino across the street that's where it

1859
01:10:00,229 --> 01:09:58,960
happened it happened in that casino

1860
01:10:01,270 --> 01:10:00,239
that's where we wound up so it's a

1861
01:10:03,590 --> 01:10:01,280
really

1862
01:10:05,510 --> 01:10:03,600
um odd coincidence that people could say

1863
01:10:07,350 --> 01:10:05,520
well you purposely moved there no we

1864
01:10:09,669 --> 01:10:07,360
love this area and we moved here because

1865
01:10:11,830 --> 01:10:09,679
we love the area we did go to the

1866
01:10:13,669 --> 01:10:11,840
restaurant bar where it happened just to

1867
01:10:15,270 --> 01:10:13,679
say you know this is where it happened

1868
01:10:17,990 --> 01:10:15,280
there used to be a plaque up that was a

1869
01:10:19,669 --> 01:10:18,000
memorial for him but it was taken down

1870
01:10:21,189 --> 01:10:19,679
i had played blackjack there and i spoke

1871
01:10:23,030 --> 01:10:21,199
to one of the dealers and like they were

1872
01:10:24,550 --> 01:10:23,040
like yeah i remember when that happened

1873
01:10:28,149 --> 01:10:24,560
i was here

1874
01:10:29,430 --> 01:10:28,159
um so really odd story um

1875
01:10:30,709 --> 01:10:29,440
and

1876
01:10:32,550 --> 01:10:30,719
yeah

1877
01:10:34,630 --> 01:10:32,560
as far as i know you know like with my

1878
01:10:36,310 --> 01:10:34,640
mom people talk about having contact

1879
01:10:38,070 --> 01:10:36,320
with her late husband neither one of us

1880
01:10:39,830 --> 01:10:38,080
had contact and dreams or anything like

1881
01:10:41,830 --> 01:10:39,840
that i had one dream about my mom i

1882
01:10:44,149 --> 01:10:41,840
remember it was so disturbing i'm like

1883
01:10:45,350 --> 01:10:44,159
there's no way i hope this is not my mom

1884
01:10:48,149 --> 01:10:45,360
communicating because it was a really

1885
01:10:50,470 --> 01:10:48,159
disturbing dream

1886
01:10:51,430 --> 01:10:50,480
so here's number 45. i'm a hospice

1887
01:10:53,990 --> 01:10:51,440
chaplain

1888
01:10:55,669 --> 01:10:54,000
hospital

1889
01:10:58,149 --> 01:10:55,679
for a time

1890
01:11:00,070 --> 01:10:58,159
there was a spiritual non-religious man

1891
01:11:02,149 --> 01:11:00,080
i had a good connection with he

1892
01:11:03,990 --> 01:11:02,159
requested that i come to his room when i

1893
01:11:05,910 --> 01:11:04,000
did he motioned for me to crouch by his

1894
01:11:08,070 --> 01:11:05,920
bed and spoke in a whisper

1895
01:11:10,070 --> 01:11:08,080
do you see my brother in the corner

1896
01:11:11,430 --> 01:11:10,080
i told him i didn't but believed he was

1897
01:11:13,430 --> 01:11:11,440
seeing him

1898
01:11:15,270 --> 01:11:13,440
he was completely lucid and calmly

1899
01:11:19,669 --> 01:11:15,280
explained that his brother had been in

1900
01:11:22,630 --> 01:11:21,430
hashing things out and coming to

1901
01:11:24,830 --> 01:11:22,640
forgiveness

1902
01:11:28,229 --> 01:11:24,840
like they weren't able

1903
01:11:29,990 --> 01:11:28,239
to able to do before his brother died

1904
01:11:31,510 --> 01:11:30,000
he worried the nurses would think he was

1905
01:11:34,630 --> 01:11:31,520
crazy and tried to me and try to

1906
01:11:36,470 --> 01:11:34,640
medicate him when i assured him

1907
01:11:38,950 --> 01:11:36,480
i believed him and just wanted to listen

1908
01:11:41,430 --> 01:11:38,960
to what he had to say he went on

1909
01:11:43,350 --> 01:11:41,440
i see death too

1910
01:11:45,110 --> 01:11:43,360
she was in the parking lot i could see

1911
01:11:47,590 --> 01:11:45,120
her from my window

1912
01:11:48,790 --> 01:11:47,600
she had my brother with him now she's in

1913
01:11:50,390 --> 01:11:48,800
the room

1914
01:11:52,390 --> 01:11:50,400
she's all black

1915
01:11:54,790 --> 01:11:52,400
but she ain't ugly

1916
01:11:57,750 --> 01:11:54,800
he was totally at peace

1917
01:11:59,669 --> 01:11:57,760
he died a few days later

1918
01:12:01,510 --> 01:11:59,679
what what was he saying you know that's

1919
01:12:04,070 --> 01:12:01,520
interesting i don't want to hear that

1920
01:12:05,750 --> 01:12:04,080
too many times he claimed to be seeing

1921
01:12:07,669 --> 01:12:05,760
death as a female

1922
01:12:10,709 --> 01:12:07,679
all black

1923
01:12:12,870 --> 01:12:10,719
black figure um

1924
01:12:15,350 --> 01:12:12,880
46

1925
01:12:17,030 --> 01:12:15,360
i do know my father's possibly last

1926
01:12:19,270 --> 01:12:17,040
words i wasn't there but he called me

1927
01:12:20,870 --> 01:12:19,280
and left me a long voicemail it was the

1928
01:12:23,189 --> 01:12:20,880
middle of the night

1929
01:12:25,350 --> 01:12:23,199
so i was passed out it all boiled it all

1930
01:12:27,669 --> 01:12:25,360
boiled down to him apologizing for a

1931
01:12:29,510 --> 01:12:27,679
fight we had months before after which

1932
01:12:31,430 --> 01:12:29,520
he didn't talk for a while the final

1933
01:12:33,669 --> 01:12:31,440
words i have recorded before he hung up

1934
01:12:35,270 --> 01:12:33,679
were and i quote

1935
01:12:36,870 --> 01:12:35,280
i hope you don't blame yourself for what

1936
01:12:38,149 --> 01:12:36,880
is going to happen but i think this is

1937
01:12:39,669 --> 01:12:38,159
the end for me

1938
01:12:41,270 --> 01:12:39,679
i'm sorry i couldn't talk to you one

1939
01:12:43,110 --> 01:12:41,280
last time

1940
01:12:44,390 --> 01:12:43,120
he committed suicide within an hour of

1941
01:12:46,149 --> 01:12:44,400
that voicemail according to the

1942
01:12:48,229 --> 01:12:46,159
coroner's report

1943
01:12:50,070 --> 01:12:48,239
i was only 17 at the time when i woke up

1944
01:12:51,430 --> 01:12:50,080
the next morning it was too late to call

1945
01:12:53,350 --> 01:12:51,440
him back

1946
01:12:55,030 --> 01:12:53,360
it may not be haunting to most but it

1947
01:12:56,630 --> 01:12:55,040
does haunt me to this day and i still

1948
01:12:57,830 --> 01:12:56,640
blame myself because i could tell from

1949
01:13:01,990 --> 01:12:57,840
his voice

1950
01:13:03,910 --> 01:13:02,000
that the fight was still weighing on him

1951
01:13:07,669 --> 01:13:03,920
the fight she's talking about is a fight

1952
01:13:15,350 --> 01:13:10,229
months before he committed suicide

1953
01:13:18,870 --> 01:13:17,189
she says it was weighing on him with

1954
01:13:21,110 --> 01:13:18,880
their relationship but i doubt that that

1955
01:13:23,910 --> 01:13:21,120
was why he had anything to do with him

1956
01:13:25,830 --> 01:13:23,920
committing suicide um

1957
01:13:28,630 --> 01:13:25,840
i don't know the whole story

1958
01:13:33,030 --> 01:13:28,640
47 my grandmother said let's get this

1959
01:13:34,229 --> 01:13:33,040
over with right before she passed on

1960
01:13:35,189 --> 01:13:34,239
yeah it's like all right this is going

1961
01:13:37,189 --> 01:13:35,199
to happen

1962
01:13:39,110 --> 01:13:37,199
make it quick i got things to do in the

1963
01:13:41,350 --> 01:13:39,120
afterlife

1964
01:13:42,709 --> 01:13:41,360
maybe it may it may be a matter of

1965
01:13:45,270 --> 01:13:42,719
closing your eyes in this world and

1966
01:13:47,030 --> 01:13:45,280
opening your eyes in a parallel world

1967
01:13:47,750 --> 01:13:47,040
you know it may be that that's that may

1968
01:13:49,510 --> 01:13:47,760
be

1969
01:13:51,030 --> 01:13:49,520
what happens

1970
01:13:53,830 --> 01:13:51,040
i don't know

1971
01:13:55,990 --> 01:13:53,840
48 i work in a nursing home and one that

1972
01:13:58,310 --> 01:13:56,000
sticks out for me was

1973
01:14:01,189 --> 01:13:58,320
my kids left me here to die

1974
01:14:03,110 --> 01:14:01,199
may that not happen to you son

1975
01:14:04,870 --> 01:14:03,120
yeah you hear stories of like i said

1976
01:14:06,790 --> 01:14:04,880
some of the people i i volunteered with

1977
01:14:08,229 --> 01:14:06,800
they had nobody come visit with them

1978
01:14:09,910 --> 01:14:08,239
it's like

1979
01:14:11,590 --> 01:14:09,920
you put your relatives they're in the

1980
01:14:13,030 --> 01:14:11,600
hospital and you don't visit them i mean

1981
01:14:14,470 --> 01:14:13,040
some people live out of state so it's

1982
01:14:15,910 --> 01:14:14,480
difficult but

1983
01:14:17,430 --> 01:14:15,920
that wasn't the case for a lot of these

1984
01:14:19,110 --> 01:14:17,440
people just for whatever reason the

1985
01:14:22,149 --> 01:14:19,120
family member members would not make

1986
01:14:25,030 --> 01:14:22,159
time to visit them so kind of sad

1987
01:14:27,750 --> 01:14:25,040
49 i had a lady tell me in her confused

1988
01:14:29,910 --> 01:14:27,760
state that her husband disappeared after

1989
01:14:31,750 --> 01:14:29,920
years of domestic violence i didn't

1990
01:14:33,590 --> 01:14:31,760
understand what she meant so i expressed

1991
01:14:34,630 --> 01:14:33,600
my condolences and asked where she think

1992
01:14:36,149 --> 01:14:34,640
he went

1993
01:14:37,510 --> 01:14:36,159
all she said was

1994
01:14:39,110 --> 01:14:37,520
underground

1995
01:14:40,950 --> 01:14:39,120
i didn't ask any more questions after

1996
01:14:43,510 --> 01:14:40,960
that and never did see her again

1997
01:14:46,310 --> 01:14:43,520
apparently she passed shortly after

1998
01:14:49,270 --> 01:14:46,320
but she haven't did she have him killed

1999
01:14:50,870 --> 01:14:49,280
weird story 50.

2000
01:14:53,350 --> 01:14:50,880
my grandfather told me he killed my

2001
01:14:55,350 --> 01:14:53,360
mom's first husband with a bat at his

2002
01:14:57,510 --> 01:14:55,360
apartment rolled him up in the carpet

2003
01:14:59,270 --> 01:14:57,520
and dumped him in a dumpster

2004
01:15:00,950 --> 01:14:59,280
since they all used to hang out in a big

2005
01:15:02,950 --> 01:15:00,960
group in high school i asked my dad what

2006
01:15:04,950 --> 01:15:02,960
happened to bob and my dad told me after

2007
01:15:07,430 --> 01:15:04,960
my mom left him he just

2008
01:15:08,870 --> 01:15:07,440
disappeared

2009
01:15:10,630 --> 01:15:08,880
not really sure what that has to do with

2010
01:15:13,030 --> 01:15:10,640
life after death but

2011
01:15:15,350 --> 01:15:13,040
they included it

2012
01:15:17,669 --> 01:15:15,360
almost done

2013
01:15:21,110 --> 01:15:17,679
yep this is the last one

2014
01:15:23,110 --> 01:15:21,120
i'm an er doctor an old lady had a big

2015
01:15:24,630 --> 01:15:23,120
heart attack and refused treatment so we

2016
01:15:27,270 --> 01:15:24,640
made her comfortable by giving her

2017
01:15:28,149 --> 01:15:27,280
morphine and benzos for her shortness of

2018
01:15:29,990 --> 01:15:28,159
breath

2019
01:15:31,270 --> 01:15:30,000
while she was in the process of dying i

2020
01:15:33,910 --> 01:15:31,280
was with her

2021
01:15:35,990 --> 01:15:33,920
while she was in the process of dying

2022
01:15:37,350 --> 01:15:36,000
i was with her and the family providing

2023
01:15:39,510 --> 01:15:37,360
comfort

2024
01:15:40,390 --> 01:15:39,520
her daughter's her daughter said to to

2025
01:15:42,149 --> 01:15:40,400
her

2026
01:15:43,910 --> 01:15:42,159
just let go mom

2027
01:15:46,790 --> 01:15:43,920
the old lady opened her eyes one last

2028
01:15:49,270 --> 01:15:46,800
time looked at her daughter and said

2029
01:15:52,870 --> 01:15:49,280
what do you think i've been trying to do

2030
01:15:54,630 --> 01:15:52,880
she passed away a short time later

2031
01:15:56,070 --> 01:15:54,640
it's like hello

2032
01:15:59,110 --> 01:15:56,080
that's what i'm trying to do here leave

2033
01:16:01,270 --> 01:15:59,120
me alone i could focus on dying

2034
01:16:02,470 --> 01:16:01,280
so like i said some of these are

2035
01:16:05,189 --> 01:16:02,480
comedic

2036
01:16:08,790 --> 01:16:06,870
and

2037
01:16:11,990 --> 01:16:08,800
i know some of those are kind of not

2038
01:16:14,149 --> 01:16:12,000
exactly what people are expecting but

2039
01:16:16,229 --> 01:16:14,159
if you have any questions

2040
01:16:18,229 --> 01:16:16,239
how long an hour and 15 all right not

2041
01:16:19,910 --> 01:16:18,239
too bad i've been averaging two hours

2042
01:16:21,910 --> 01:16:19,920
and i know for some people that's way

2043
01:16:24,790 --> 01:16:21,920
too long and for other people the better

2044
01:16:27,350 --> 01:16:24,800
the longer the better

2045
01:16:30,149 --> 01:16:27,360
i i have not read michelob's essay yet

2046
01:16:33,189 --> 01:16:30,159
dan i haven't read any of that i need to

2047
01:16:35,350 --> 01:16:33,199
make time i have so much stuff going on

2048
01:16:37,430 --> 01:16:35,360
trying to keep the blog going um and

2049
01:16:39,510 --> 01:16:37,440
trying to keep my twitter interesting

2050
01:16:41,270 --> 01:16:39,520
that i need to take time i started

2051
01:16:45,270 --> 01:16:41,280
reading it i got distracted and i didn't

2052
01:16:48,390 --> 01:16:46,950
michelle's essay was a heavy read lots

2053
01:16:50,229 --> 01:16:48,400
because yeah a lot of videos which i

2054
01:16:53,910 --> 01:16:50,239
love in the beginning and never all the

2055
01:16:56,470 --> 01:16:55,430
so it says this is not

2056
01:16:58,390 --> 01:16:56,480
this is why you should not kill

2057
01:17:00,149 --> 01:16:58,400
something because those who get stirred

2058
01:17:01,669 --> 01:17:00,159
up with those who are just trying to get

2059
01:17:03,590 --> 01:17:01,679
a message through

2060
01:17:05,990 --> 01:17:03,600
i've done ghost timing before just

2061
01:17:07,350 --> 01:17:06,000
piggybacking on other people i went to

2062
01:17:10,870 --> 01:17:07,360
um

2063
01:17:12,229 --> 01:17:10,880
the queen mary in long beach and

2064
01:17:14,709 --> 01:17:12,239
we actually saw something there was a

2065
01:17:15,910 --> 01:17:14,719
ghost hunting group there and

2066
01:17:17,590 --> 01:17:15,920
they shot some video and they're like

2067
01:17:19,750 --> 01:17:17,600
look we just captured it and it was

2068
01:17:20,709 --> 01:17:19,760
total almost total darkness where we

2069
01:17:23,030 --> 01:17:20,719
were in the

2070
01:17:24,790 --> 01:17:23,040
in the bowels of the ship um near where

2071
01:17:26,310 --> 01:17:24,800
the swimming pool used to be and she

2072
01:17:28,709 --> 01:17:26,320
played the video back and it was like a

2073
01:17:30,550 --> 01:17:28,719
ball of light it just popped on

2074
01:17:33,430 --> 01:17:30,560
traveled like that went up and then

2075
01:17:35,350 --> 01:17:33,440
blinked out so it was to me it wasn't

2076
01:17:37,430 --> 01:17:35,360
dust it was in the middle of this

2077
01:17:40,070 --> 01:17:37,440
darkness it was pretty cool whatever it

2078
01:17:40,080 --> 01:17:42,870
um

2079
01:17:47,110 --> 01:17:45,669
yeah i don't know i don't know

2080
01:17:49,990 --> 01:17:47,120
medical stuff

2081
01:17:54,630 --> 01:17:51,750
but

2082
01:17:56,830 --> 01:17:54,640
any more questions tomorrow i'm doing

2083
01:17:59,350 --> 01:17:56,840
with calling all beings

2084
01:18:02,630 --> 01:17:59,360
so that would be fun they have multiple

2085
01:18:04,630 --> 01:18:02,640
people in me so if i get tongue tied or

2086
01:18:06,229 --> 01:18:04,640
out of lustful words they can chime in

2087
01:18:08,070 --> 01:18:06,239
which is always good

2088
01:18:10,630 --> 01:18:08,080
and

2089
01:18:12,470 --> 01:18:10,640
i have multiple transcripts in the works

2090
01:18:14,630 --> 01:18:12,480
like four of them i have four or five

2091
01:18:15,669 --> 01:18:14,640
maybe six i have to post uh just

2092
01:18:18,790 --> 01:18:15,679
finished

2093
01:18:20,550 --> 01:18:18,800
eric weinstein and how pop and

2094
01:18:22,470 --> 01:18:20,560
that was tough because there's a lot of

2095
01:18:33,189 --> 01:18:22,480
science

2096
01:18:52,950 --> 01:18:35,110
we kept the most important twitter items

2097
01:18:59,590 --> 01:18:56,340
ah hopefully it wasn't muted then

2098
01:19:12,550 --> 01:19:01,270
i

2099
01:19:14,149 --> 01:19:12,560
almost an hour half

2100
01:19:16,709 --> 01:19:14,159
um

2101
01:19:19,990 --> 01:19:16,719
tomorrow doing that interview

2102
01:19:23,350 --> 01:19:20,000
all right i promise pj in the next

2103
01:19:25,990 --> 01:19:23,360
few days i will do something yeah

2104
01:19:27,189 --> 01:19:26,000
somebody made a dumb and dumber picture

2105
01:19:28,790 --> 01:19:27,199
with steve

2106
01:19:30,149 --> 01:19:28,800
steven greenstreet and john greenwald

2107
01:19:32,470 --> 01:19:30,159
which is

2108
01:19:34,229 --> 01:19:32,480
it was funny um i've had people and you

2109
01:19:36,470 --> 01:19:34,239
know people like it's offensive nobody

2110
01:19:37,910 --> 01:19:36,480
said that it's funny i don't have it

2111
01:19:39,910 --> 01:19:37,920
right here but i remember somebody made

2112
01:19:41,510 --> 01:19:39,920
a picture of me with a wig and a dress

2113
01:19:42,709 --> 01:19:41,520
all different color wigs and people are

2114
01:19:48,550 --> 01:19:42,719
like

2115
01:19:48,560 --> 01:19:52,229
um

2116
01:19:55,830 --> 01:19:53,910
yeah i didn't have any negatives and i

2117
01:19:57,910 --> 01:19:55,840
didn't have any negative experiences in

2118
01:19:59,750 --> 01:19:57,920
any places i've gone

2119
01:20:01,830 --> 01:19:59,760
ghost hunting um it's not like i really

2120
01:20:03,590 --> 01:20:01,840
make a habit of it but i went to a place

2121
01:20:06,070 --> 01:20:03,600
in new orleans where there was a group

2122
01:20:07,990 --> 01:20:06,080
of people and you paid to go in

2123
01:20:09,669 --> 01:20:08,000
and

2124
01:20:11,270 --> 01:20:09,679
it was an alleged haunted house with no

2125
01:20:12,870 --> 01:20:11,280
power and there were people who were in

2126
01:20:15,110 --> 01:20:12,880
the group ahead of us screaming when

2127
01:20:16,709 --> 01:20:15,120
they were upstairs oh my god oh my god

2128
01:20:18,709 --> 01:20:16,719
do you see it do you see it and we went

2129
01:20:20,310 --> 01:20:18,719
upstairs experienced absolutely nothing

2130
01:20:21,110 --> 01:20:20,320
which is not abnormal

2131
01:20:23,669 --> 01:20:21,120
um

2132
01:20:25,910 --> 01:20:23,679
so the only thing i i will say when i

2133
01:20:30,070 --> 01:20:25,920
did the ouija board back in

2134
01:20:32,629 --> 01:20:30,080
91 90 i'm trying to think

2135
01:20:35,510 --> 01:20:32,639
92 something like that

2136
01:20:37,510 --> 01:20:35,520
i did not feel good afterwards so i

2137
01:20:39,350 --> 01:20:37,520
stopped doing that and i know there are

2138
01:20:40,470 --> 01:20:39,360
some people are like that's opening a

2139
01:20:42,550 --> 01:20:40,480
door and

2140
01:20:44,790 --> 01:20:42,560
inviting things in so

2141
01:20:47,030 --> 01:20:44,800
didn't like it stopped it and i will

2142
01:20:53,430 --> 01:20:47,040
probably most likely

2143
01:20:55,990 --> 01:20:54,470
and um

2144
01:20:57,350 --> 01:20:56,000
you're welcome

2145
01:20:59,110 --> 01:20:57,360
uip

2146
01:21:01,110 --> 01:20:59,120
i appreciate it yeah i think that's all

2147
01:21:03,990 --> 01:21:01,120
the anecdotes i had

2148
01:21:05,510 --> 01:21:04,000
for my personal stuff but i will promise

2149
01:21:07,270 --> 01:21:05,520
mike

2150
01:21:08,790 --> 01:21:07,280
in the next couple of days i will just

2151
01:21:11,510 --> 01:21:08,800
sit and go through i'll just go through

2152
01:21:12,390 --> 01:21:11,520
my twitter i will go one week back

2153
01:21:15,030 --> 01:21:12,400
um

2154
01:21:16,790 --> 01:21:15,040
hopefully not more than two hours

2155
01:21:18,070 --> 01:21:16,800
hey jeff how you doing

2156
01:21:22,950 --> 01:21:18,080
it'll be there

2157
01:21:25,669 --> 01:21:24,070
i don't know how

2158
01:21:27,910 --> 01:21:25,679
you know

2159
01:21:31,030 --> 01:21:27,920
i know what i need to do when i i have

2160
01:21:32,149 --> 01:21:31,040
transcripts from semi-van lou

2161
01:21:35,590 --> 01:21:32,159
weinstein

2162
01:21:37,110 --> 01:21:35,600
put off another lu one from the summer i

2163
01:21:38,790 --> 01:21:37,120
need to summarize those when i come on

2164
01:21:40,550 --> 01:21:38,800
here to read it word for word is too

2165
01:21:41,510 --> 01:21:40,560
boring it's too it's too boring it's too

2166
01:21:42,709 --> 01:21:41,520
long

2167
01:21:44,629 --> 01:21:42,719
um

2168
01:21:46,390 --> 01:21:44,639
but twitter i can go over

2169
01:21:47,910 --> 01:21:46,400
tweets and i can expand on what i was

2170
01:21:49,270 --> 01:21:47,920
trying to tweet because you know it's

2171
01:21:51,590 --> 01:21:49,280
limited i'm

2172
01:21:53,350 --> 01:21:51,600
trying to think

2173
01:21:55,189 --> 01:21:53,360
yeah one of the things i pulled up from

2174
01:21:57,510 --> 01:21:55,199
the summer where i had a source that

2175
01:21:59,270 --> 01:21:57,520
said eric eric davis was in charge of

2176
01:22:00,470 --> 01:21:59,280
the crash retrieval portfolio which is a

2177
01:22:02,950 --> 01:22:00,480
big deal

2178
01:22:07,189 --> 01:22:05,189
no doubt about that what exactly does

2179
01:22:09,669 --> 01:22:07,199
that mean i don't know i can't get

2180
01:22:12,870 --> 01:22:09,679
details you know

2181
01:22:14,550 --> 01:22:12,880
i can't ask him about

2182
01:22:17,110 --> 01:22:14,560
details related to the crash retrieval

2183
01:22:20,229 --> 01:22:17,120
program what he said publicly i think

2184
01:22:21,990 --> 01:22:20,239
he's already pushing it as far as he can

2185
01:22:23,990 --> 01:22:22,000
you know you listen to what lu can say

2186
01:22:25,189 --> 01:22:24,000
and i'm interviewing lou on the 4th of

2187
01:22:28,629 --> 01:22:25,199
march

2188
01:22:31,590 --> 01:22:28,639
um lou only goes so far davis goes a lot

2189
01:22:33,669 --> 01:22:31,600
further than anybody goes and

2190
01:22:36,709 --> 01:22:33,679
he has chased down that crash retrieval

2191
01:22:39,910 --> 01:22:36,719
story for at least 2002 when he met

2192
01:22:46,229 --> 01:22:39,920
admiral wilson and interviewed him so 20

2193
01:22:50,310 --> 01:22:48,470
thanks jeff um

2194
01:22:53,830 --> 01:22:50,320
and i gotta make an effort because i

2195
01:22:55,189 --> 01:22:53,840
promised pj that i would go over my

2196
01:22:56,550 --> 01:22:55,199
tweets and that's something i do want to

2197
01:22:57,910 --> 01:22:56,560
do because

2198
01:22:59,430 --> 01:22:57,920
i know i know there are people on

2199
01:23:00,629 --> 01:22:59,440
youtube it's a totally different crowd

2200
01:23:02,709 --> 01:23:00,639
because i don't think a lot of the

2201
01:23:04,709 --> 01:23:02,719
twitter folks

2202
01:23:06,149 --> 01:23:04,719
will follow me some do obviously i know

2203
01:23:07,910 --> 01:23:06,159
some of the names but there are a lot of

2204
01:23:10,790 --> 01:23:07,920
twitter folks they're like

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01:23:12,390 --> 01:23:10,800
you've already heard joe tweet

2206
01:23:13,750 --> 01:23:12,400
saw his blog don't need to hear him on

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01:23:14,950 --> 01:23:13,760
youtube so the youtube crowd is

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01:23:17,590 --> 01:23:14,960
different

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01:23:19,430 --> 01:23:17,600
um i am not consistent if i do

2210
01:23:22,950 --> 01:23:19,440
something the same day every day i will

2211
01:23:24,550 --> 01:23:22,960
get a bigger audience i realize that but

2212
01:23:26,790 --> 01:23:24,560
i'm not sure

2213
01:23:28,070 --> 01:23:26,800
i also spent a ton of time on the blog i

2214
01:23:30,229 --> 01:23:28,080
mean every day when i'm doing

2215
01:23:32,870 --> 01:23:30,239
transcripts it's like it takes so much

2216
01:23:35,110 --> 01:23:32,880
time um because i don't just transcribe

2217
01:23:36,470 --> 01:23:35,120
i can link to it make sure it's accurate

2218
01:23:37,510 --> 01:23:36,480
as far as grammar and everything

2219
01:23:39,590 --> 01:23:37,520
spelling

2220
01:23:41,430 --> 01:23:39,600
the the software i used is not perfect

2221
01:23:42,629 --> 01:23:41,440
it's good i mean otter is really good

2222
01:23:43,990 --> 01:23:42,639
but it's

2223
01:23:45,669 --> 01:23:44,000
so it's better with some people than

2224
01:23:48,149 --> 01:23:45,679
others some people who speak clear and

2225
01:23:50,550 --> 01:23:48,159
slow it's great but then other people

2226
01:23:52,790 --> 01:23:50,560
speak like put off it struggled with put

2227
01:23:54,709 --> 01:23:52,800
off um i did not like the way that eric

2228
01:23:56,550 --> 01:23:54,719
weinstein handled put off in that you

2229
01:23:58,149 --> 01:23:56,560
know he's like oh you don't come off

2230
01:24:00,390 --> 01:23:58,159
very you know you've come off with very

2231
01:24:03,350 --> 01:24:00,400
cogent before and now i don't know it's

2232
01:24:04,550 --> 01:24:03,360
like i think hal got frustrated because

2233
01:24:06,310 --> 01:24:04,560
hal was talking about how they made

2234
01:24:08,310 --> 01:24:06,320
money in the silver's futures by using

2235
01:24:09,669 --> 01:24:08,320
associative remote viewing

2236
01:24:11,669 --> 01:24:09,679
um

2237
01:24:13,030 --> 01:24:11,679
and and and eric weinstein is like well

2238
01:24:14,310 --> 01:24:13,040
why don't you why didn't you keep doing

2239
01:24:16,149 --> 01:24:14,320
it and i was like well i had other

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01:24:17,750 --> 01:24:16,159
things going on and that just took up so

2241
01:24:19,750 --> 01:24:17,760
much time and he's like

2242
01:24:20,950 --> 01:24:19,760
how's like i could tell you how to do it

2243
01:24:22,390 --> 01:24:20,960
you could do it yourself and you could

2244
01:24:23,990 --> 01:24:22,400
prove it to yourself that it works you

2245
01:24:26,550 --> 01:24:24,000
could see how i was getting a little

2246
01:24:27,990 --> 01:24:26,560
annoyed um because a lot of people who

2247
01:24:30,229 --> 01:24:28,000
are skeptical of remote viewing have

2248
01:24:31,910 --> 01:24:30,239
never tried it so it's like you really

2249
01:24:33,990 --> 01:24:31,920
need to try it for yourself i was able

2250
01:24:35,750 --> 01:24:34,000
to do it and come up with little details

2251
01:24:37,590 --> 01:24:35,760
that i should not have been able to come

2252
01:24:38,550 --> 01:24:37,600
up with but i am not a good natural

2253
01:24:40,550 --> 01:24:38,560
psychic

2254
01:24:42,790 --> 01:24:40,560
um there are people that come up with

2255
01:24:44,229 --> 01:24:42,800
amazing details i'm not one but i did

2256
01:24:45,669 --> 01:24:44,239
come up with some details during my

2257
01:24:47,510 --> 01:24:45,679
remote viewing like

2258
01:24:48,870 --> 01:24:47,520
you know you see a neighborhood with

2259
01:24:50,709 --> 01:24:48,880
three houses and on the top of one of

2260
01:24:52,229 --> 01:24:50,719
the houses is a weather vane it's pretty

2261
01:24:54,390 --> 01:24:52,239
prominent in the picture and in my

2262
01:24:56,310 --> 01:24:54,400
remote viewing i wrote i drew a weather

2263
01:24:58,709 --> 01:24:56,320
vein and i wrote weather vein pointing

2264
01:24:59,910 --> 01:24:58,719
it to it you know that's not great but

2265
01:25:01,830 --> 01:24:59,920
it was something and there were other

2266
01:25:03,110 --> 01:25:01,840
ones where i wrote down

2267
01:25:06,149 --> 01:25:03,120
bright yellow

2268
01:25:09,350 --> 01:25:06,159
right

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01:25:11,430 --> 01:25:09,360
house

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01:25:13,270 --> 01:25:11,440
in europe

2271
01:25:15,430 --> 01:25:13,280
and it was so obvious the garage was

2272
01:25:17,270 --> 01:25:15,440
pretty was the garage was painted bright

2273
01:25:19,510 --> 01:25:17,280
blue and bright yellow it matched

2274
01:25:21,270 --> 01:25:19,520
exactly what i said it's like those just

2275
01:25:22,870 --> 01:25:21,280
pop into your head you write them down

2276
01:25:24,709 --> 01:25:22,880
and it wasn't just yellow blue it was

2277
01:25:26,390 --> 01:25:24,719
bright yellow bright blue and they were

2278
01:25:28,950 --> 01:25:26,400
bright um

2279
01:25:31,669 --> 01:25:28,960
so little things like that show me

2280
01:25:34,470 --> 01:25:31,679
that yes somehow you're contacting

2281
01:25:37,430 --> 01:25:34,480
that target accessing the data somehow

2282
01:25:39,270 --> 01:25:37,440
with your sixth sense um pounds team i

2283
01:25:41,750 --> 01:25:39,280
will i'll bring it up to lou i mean i

2284
01:25:44,070 --> 01:25:41,760
heard michael the one who i michael i

2285
01:25:45,990 --> 01:25:44,080
interviewed who was um

2286
01:25:47,830 --> 01:25:46,000
healed of being blind and

2287
01:25:49,350 --> 01:25:47,840
maybe there may be people skeptical of

2288
01:25:51,430 --> 01:25:49,360
that i'm not one of them i've spoken to

2289
01:25:53,510 --> 01:25:51,440
him and his fam and his wife

2290
01:25:55,189 --> 01:25:53,520
numerous times um

2291
01:25:57,590 --> 01:25:55,199
but he's the first one i heard mentioned

2292
01:25:59,189 --> 01:25:57,600
pounce team supposedly as a group that

2293
01:26:01,110 --> 01:25:59,199
if there's a crash with people they jump

2294
01:26:04,310 --> 01:26:01,120
in and make sure everything is cleaned

2295
01:26:06,550 --> 01:26:04,320
up and nobody sees it

2296
01:26:09,030 --> 01:26:06,560
what do i know about remote viewing i i

2297
01:26:11,910 --> 01:26:09,040
studied back in

2298
01:26:13,270 --> 01:26:11,920
i think it was 97 i took a class with

2299
01:26:15,110 --> 01:26:13,280
lynn buchanan who was one of the

2300
01:26:17,750 --> 01:26:15,120
original army remote viewers so it was a

2301
01:26:20,790 --> 01:26:17,760
three-day basic class controlled remote

2302
01:26:22,950 --> 01:26:20,800
viewing um read all lots of books on it

2303
01:26:24,629 --> 01:26:22,960
um courtney brown lecture on remote

2304
01:26:26,629 --> 01:26:24,639
viewing was the first one i attended

2305
01:26:29,510 --> 01:26:26,639
bought his book cosmic voyage which i do

2306
01:26:30,310 --> 01:26:29,520
not recommend um mcmonicle's books are

2307
01:26:31,669 --> 01:26:30,320
great

2308
01:26:33,750 --> 01:26:31,679
um

2309
01:26:35,669 --> 01:26:33,760
mind track which you can find online in

2310
01:26:37,830 --> 01:26:35,679
a pdf a lot of those books if you type

2311
01:26:40,070 --> 01:26:37,840
in the name of a book in a pdf a lot of

2312
01:26:42,390 --> 01:26:40,080
times they're online in a google on a

2313
01:26:44,870 --> 01:26:42,400
pdf because i have the book

2314
01:26:47,110 --> 01:26:44,880
in physical form but i also want the pdf

2315
01:26:49,110 --> 01:26:47,120
and i don't want to buy it again so

2316
01:26:51,270 --> 01:26:49,120
i don't feel guilty about that

2317
01:26:54,070 --> 01:26:51,280
um does remote viewing open you up to

2318
01:26:56,470 --> 01:26:54,080
exterior influences well i didn't do it

2319
01:26:58,149 --> 01:26:56,480
enough to have any experiences but john

2320
01:26:59,910 --> 01:26:58,159
mcmonicle said in his 10th year of

2321
01:27:01,830 --> 01:26:59,920
remote viewing he started seeing things

2322
01:27:03,430 --> 01:27:01,840
out of the corner of his eye that when

2323
01:27:04,870 --> 01:27:03,440
he would look up they would disappear

2324
01:27:06,149 --> 01:27:04,880
eventually they wouldn't disappear and

2325
01:27:08,229 --> 01:27:06,159
he would able to look at them like

2326
01:27:09,750 --> 01:27:08,239
shadow creatures no they never hurt him

2327
01:27:12,390 --> 01:27:09,760
or anything

2328
01:27:13,910 --> 01:27:12,400
he saw a foot high little that's

2329
01:27:14,950 --> 01:27:13,920
something i put on twitter a foot high a

2330
01:27:17,030 --> 01:27:14,960
little

2331
01:27:18,629 --> 01:27:17,040
lizard running in his house where the

2332
01:27:19,990 --> 01:27:18,639
cat went to chase it and it was growling

2333
01:27:21,350 --> 01:27:20,000
at it um

2334
01:27:24,629 --> 01:27:21,360
seems like it's

2335
01:27:26,470 --> 01:27:24,639
like the guy i'm listening to lately

2336
01:27:28,310 --> 01:27:26,480
paul eno he's his theory is it's a

2337
01:27:30,870 --> 01:27:28,320
multiverse and all of these worlds are

2338
01:27:33,030 --> 01:27:30,880
bleeding into our world like bubbles

2339
01:27:35,030 --> 01:27:33,040
connecting in a sink you know they bleed

2340
01:27:36,950 --> 01:27:35,040
in they pop

2341
01:27:38,709 --> 01:27:36,960
so we're experiencing at times we're

2342
01:27:42,550 --> 01:27:38,719
experiencing these other

2343
01:27:48,070 --> 01:27:46,709
as far as any negative influences

2344
01:27:50,629 --> 01:27:48,080
i've heard people who are

2345
01:27:52,149 --> 01:27:50,639
psychologically unstable have issues

2346
01:27:53,350 --> 01:27:52,159
they had something like that happen in

2347
01:27:56,790 --> 01:27:53,360
the program

2348
01:27:58,870 --> 01:27:56,800
but most of the guys you talk to

2349
01:28:01,110 --> 01:27:58,880
they really haven't i mean lynn buchanan

2350
01:28:02,950 --> 01:28:01,120
would speak about when he would do a

2351
01:28:04,550 --> 01:28:02,960
session on salaam hussein when he was in

2352
01:28:08,149 --> 01:28:04,560
the army they would do something where

2353
01:28:10,310 --> 01:28:08,159
it's like a brain or mind scan

2354
01:28:11,669 --> 01:28:10,320
and you have a monitor sitting across

2355
01:28:13,350 --> 01:28:11,679
the table from you when you're remote

2356
01:28:15,510 --> 01:28:13,360
viewing that's that's what they were

2357
01:28:17,510 --> 01:28:15,520
doing in the military if you ever see

2358
01:28:18,870 --> 01:28:17,520
the ones right now

2359
01:28:20,870 --> 01:28:18,880
some of the modern day remote viewers

2360
01:28:21,990 --> 01:28:20,880
don't use a monitor but in the military

2361
01:28:23,350 --> 01:28:22,000
um

2362
01:28:25,110 --> 01:28:23,360
so they have somebody sitting across

2363
01:28:27,669 --> 01:28:25,120
from them and this one lady was

2364
01:28:29,910 --> 01:28:27,679
monitoring lynn buchanan and basically

2365
01:28:31,669 --> 01:28:29,920
you know the monitor says the monitor

2366
01:28:34,870 --> 01:28:31,679
doesn't know the target either so the

2367
01:28:37,590 --> 01:28:34,880
monitor says um give me skimmy sounds

2368
01:28:39,189 --> 01:28:37,600
smells tastes um go a thousand feet

2369
01:28:40,870 --> 01:28:39,199
above the target and describe what you

2370
01:28:42,470 --> 01:28:40,880
see um

2371
01:28:44,470 --> 01:28:42,480
and he was doing a session he looked up

2372
01:28:46,390 --> 01:28:44,480
and the monitor had turned white

2373
01:28:48,390 --> 01:28:46,400
um so what happened during this is what

2374
01:28:50,790 --> 01:28:48,400
lin said happened during his remote

2375
01:28:53,030 --> 01:28:50,800
viewing of sodom hussein

2376
01:28:55,830 --> 01:28:53,040
his blue eyes had turned brown which

2377
01:28:57,590 --> 01:28:55,840
matched sodom hussein's brown uh eyes um

2378
01:28:59,990 --> 01:28:57,600
and lynn's like

2379
01:29:02,310 --> 01:29:00,000
you you can kind of start taking on

2380
01:29:03,590 --> 01:29:02,320
the person you're you're melding with

2381
01:29:06,149 --> 01:29:03,600
which is obviously not a good thing of

2382
01:29:08,709 --> 01:29:06,159
what sodom was saying um

2383
01:29:10,470 --> 01:29:08,719
but that's you know he goes he i needed

2384
01:29:11,350 --> 01:29:10,480
to detox a little bit after that and

2385
01:29:12,709 --> 01:29:11,360
there are people who are not going to

2386
01:29:14,229 --> 01:29:12,719
believe that story but that's the story

2387
01:29:16,149 --> 01:29:14,239
he told and he said it freaked out the

2388
01:29:17,910 --> 01:29:16,159
monitor

2389
01:29:30,790 --> 01:29:17,920
and the dog is freaking out what are you

2390
01:29:35,510 --> 01:29:32,950
yeah mcmonicle saw a native american in

2391
01:29:36,950 --> 01:29:35,520
his house um a house he was staying at a

2392
01:29:38,390 --> 01:29:36,960
friend and the friend's like oh yeah he

2393
01:29:40,310 --> 01:29:38,400
just visits it was coming it's kind of

2394
01:29:42,070 --> 01:29:40,320
like the guy was bilocating and joe

2395
01:29:43,510 --> 01:29:42,080
mcmonicle was able to see him in his

2396
01:29:44,870 --> 01:29:43,520
other body

2397
01:29:47,270 --> 01:29:44,880
um

2398
01:29:49,189 --> 01:29:47,280
and he described him accurately

2399
01:29:51,430 --> 01:29:49,199
so yeah but that was 10 years of remote

2400
01:29:55,510 --> 01:29:51,440
viewing that opened him up to other to

2401
01:29:59,510 --> 01:29:57,910
pix has entered the building

2402
01:30:00,870 --> 01:29:59,520
good evening

2403
01:30:03,030 --> 01:30:00,880
do i have a checklist of topics you

2404
01:30:04,229 --> 01:30:03,040
really want to bring up with lou um

2405
01:30:07,270 --> 01:30:04,239
yeah i'm gonna have a whole list and

2406
01:30:08,790 --> 01:30:07,280
i'll have too many questions um i may

2407
01:30:11,189 --> 01:30:08,800
ask him things he's been asked before

2408
01:30:13,590 --> 01:30:11,199
but ask it in a different way and just

2409
01:30:16,070 --> 01:30:13,600
expand upon certain things

2410
01:30:21,270 --> 01:30:18,390
there i'm sure i will i will run out of

2411
01:30:22,629 --> 01:30:21,280
time with him i have i have 75 minutes i

2412
01:30:23,669 --> 01:30:22,639
believe with him

2413
01:30:24,629 --> 01:30:23,679
so

2414
01:30:26,390 --> 01:30:24,639
um

2415
01:30:28,310 --> 01:30:26,400
i'm not going to give away my questions

2416
01:30:29,830 --> 01:30:28,320
but you can imagine i mean i'm not

2417
01:30:31,910 --> 01:30:29,840
really i mean people like ask about

2418
01:30:33,510 --> 01:30:31,920
wilson davis well he's been asked about

2419
01:30:34,390 --> 01:30:33,520
that he's like i never spoke to eric

2420
01:30:36,149 --> 01:30:34,400
about it

2421
01:30:37,750 --> 01:30:36,159
um

2422
01:30:39,350 --> 01:30:37,760
i can ask hypotheticals you know you

2423
01:30:43,590 --> 01:30:39,360
know

2424
01:30:46,149 --> 01:30:43,600
logical to you that admiral wilson would

2425
01:30:48,950 --> 01:30:46,159
be upset that he wasn't given access to

2426
01:30:51,350 --> 01:30:48,960
a special access program that he wasn't

2427
01:30:52,629 --> 01:30:51,360
read into should he if is does that

2428
01:30:54,229 --> 01:30:52,639
sound right

2429
01:30:56,629 --> 01:30:54,239
because that's a lot of a question a lot

2430
01:30:57,750 --> 01:30:56,639
of people have it's like but he was

2431
01:30:59,910 --> 01:30:57,760
you know he was in charge of

2432
01:31:01,750 --> 01:30:59,920
intelligence so he intelligence so and

2433
01:31:03,750 --> 01:31:01,760
it was another reason maybe funding wise

2434
01:31:06,470 --> 01:31:03,760
they were connected to that program

2435
01:31:07,830 --> 01:31:06,480
through um the joint chap joint chiefs

2436
01:31:11,510 --> 01:31:07,840
but

2437
01:31:12,470 --> 01:31:11,520
would not get into that into that with

2438
01:31:14,149 --> 01:31:12,480
eric

2439
01:31:16,790 --> 01:31:14,159
why he felt they had oversight i'm not

2440
01:31:18,470 --> 01:31:16,800
sure if i'll ask that um because like i

2441
01:31:20,790 --> 01:31:18,480
said

2442
01:31:22,229 --> 01:31:20,800
no doubt that that me the admiral wilson

2443
01:31:25,189 --> 01:31:22,239
interview took place but there are other

2444
01:31:27,110 --> 01:31:25,199
questions i can ask about and i i know

2445
01:31:31,910 --> 01:31:27,120
i need to ask hypotheticals on certain

2446
01:31:37,189 --> 01:31:33,669
yeah um

2447
01:31:38,390 --> 01:31:37,199
definitely details

2448
01:31:40,950 --> 01:31:38,400
but

2449
01:31:42,870 --> 01:31:40,960
you know i'm not gonna

2450
01:31:44,229 --> 01:31:42,880
demand he go anywhere because people

2451
01:31:45,990 --> 01:31:44,239
like you got to push him you got to push

2452
01:31:48,149 --> 01:31:46,000
him and

2453
01:31:52,470 --> 01:31:48,159
you know i don't need to push i can ask

2454
01:31:56,310 --> 01:31:54,550
where did some events expand on his

2455
01:31:59,910 --> 01:31:56,320
experience

2456
01:32:04,390 --> 01:31:59,920
yeah he was uh interviewed by

2457
01:32:05,750 --> 01:32:04,400
what's the name the experience of group

2458
01:32:08,070 --> 01:32:05,760
i will tran that's i'm gonna start

2459
01:32:11,590 --> 01:32:08,080
working on that one tomorrow

2460
01:32:14,790 --> 01:32:13,350
by

2461
01:32:18,310 --> 01:32:14,800
stuart

2462
01:32:20,550 --> 01:32:18,320
davis in the experiencer group

2463
01:32:25,030 --> 01:32:20,560
so their twitter is at

2464
01:32:26,950 --> 01:32:25,040
four experiencers for experiencers but

2465
01:32:29,110 --> 01:32:26,960
so that's where that interview was with

2466
01:32:30,390 --> 01:32:29,120
semi-van and he talked about it in more

2467
01:32:33,189 --> 01:32:30,400
in-depth

2468
01:32:35,750 --> 01:32:33,199
uh said it looked like the michelin man

2469
01:32:39,270 --> 01:32:35,760
but it was all black with

2470
01:32:40,950 --> 01:32:39,280
or dark armor uh skinnier not like a fat

2471
01:32:43,110 --> 01:32:40,960
michelin man so that type of thing with

2472
01:32:44,709 --> 01:32:43,120
dark armor and

2473
01:32:46,790 --> 01:32:44,719
colin kelleher immediately knew what

2474
01:32:48,310 --> 01:32:46,800
type of being it was i forget the name i

2475
01:32:49,830 --> 01:32:48,320
have it i have it written down because

2476
01:32:51,430 --> 01:32:49,840
oh those are the

2477
01:32:52,950 --> 01:32:51,440
menendez or something like that so

2478
01:32:55,030 --> 01:32:52,960
obviously column color had heard that

2479
01:32:56,470 --> 01:32:55,040
type of being experienced before he's

2480
01:32:58,149 --> 01:32:56,480
like it wasn't a gray he goes although

2481
01:32:59,590 --> 01:32:58,159
there may have been a gray there present

2482
01:33:00,950 --> 01:32:59,600
or mantis i couldn't tell there was

2483
01:33:02,550 --> 01:33:00,960
something over my shoulder i couldn't

2484
01:33:03,510 --> 01:33:02,560
see

2485
01:33:05,270 --> 01:33:03,520
um

2486
01:33:08,310 --> 01:33:05,280
when am i meeting with davis well davis

2487
01:33:11,830 --> 01:33:08,320
is in alabama so

2488
01:33:13,830 --> 01:33:11,840
i was planning a trip in that area

2489
01:33:16,229 --> 01:33:13,840
but it didn't happen

2490
01:33:17,750 --> 01:33:16,239
if i go meet him i will have to continue

2491
01:33:19,189 --> 01:33:17,760
and drive down to florida and see will

2492
01:33:20,830 --> 01:33:19,199
miller again

2493
01:33:23,110 --> 01:33:20,840
been a long

2494
01:33:24,950 --> 01:33:23,120
time do i have access to what jesse

2495
01:33:26,470 --> 01:33:24,960
michael's edited out oh i didn't know i

2496
01:33:28,950 --> 01:33:26,480
didn't know he edited anything out he

2497
01:33:30,790 --> 01:33:28,960
says he didn't edit anything out so no i

2498
01:33:31,910 --> 01:33:30,800
don't even know jesse

2499
01:33:34,070 --> 01:33:31,920
um

2500
01:33:36,629 --> 01:33:34,080
you're welcome bug stuart davis did a

2501
01:33:38,629 --> 01:33:36,639
great job in interview um yeah he's

2502
01:33:40,149 --> 01:33:38,639
really good

2503
01:33:41,990 --> 01:33:40,159
and um

2504
01:33:43,030 --> 01:33:42,000
the guy who's part of uh

2505
01:33:45,110 --> 01:33:43,040
who i know

2506
01:33:46,950 --> 01:33:45,120
who i've interviewed is j christopher

2507
01:33:49,189 --> 01:33:46,960
king and he's going to be part of

2508
01:33:51,590 --> 01:33:49,199
sean's interview witness citizen of lou

2509
01:33:53,750 --> 01:33:51,600
so he's an experiencer so really curious

2510
01:33:55,270 --> 01:33:53,760
where jay can take that um if it goes in

2511
01:33:56,550 --> 01:33:55,280
a different direction but lou's not

2512
01:33:57,430 --> 01:33:56,560
gonna talk about abductions i don't

2513
01:33:59,189 --> 01:33:57,440
think

2514
01:34:00,629 --> 01:33:59,199
although now that semivanna has spoken

2515
01:34:02,790 --> 01:34:00,639
up

2516
01:34:05,350 --> 01:34:02,800
you know you can go there um lewis kind

2517
01:34:06,950 --> 01:34:05,360
of said in the one episode of

2518
01:34:08,310 --> 01:34:06,960
unidentified he's like we don't know if

2519
01:34:10,149 --> 01:34:08,320
it's a physical thing happening but

2520
01:34:12,149 --> 01:34:10,159
semi-van's like

2521
01:34:14,470 --> 01:34:12,159
i know what oh i know what um lucid

2522
01:34:17,189 --> 01:34:14,480
dreaming is i was not in a hypnagogic

2523
01:34:22,390 --> 01:34:17,199
state this was real so that's something

2524
01:34:26,149 --> 01:34:24,229
what do i think about lacasse's claims

2525
01:34:27,350 --> 01:34:26,159
about alexander which what claims though

2526
01:34:28,790 --> 01:34:27,360
i don't know what claims you're talking

2527
01:34:29,910 --> 01:34:28,800
about just

2528
01:34:31,030 --> 01:34:29,920
oh

2529
01:34:32,950 --> 01:34:31,040
yeah yeah

2530
01:34:34,950 --> 01:34:32,960
that he worked in a small unofficial

2531
01:34:36,550 --> 01:34:34,960
office yeah well that's i think lulu

2532
01:34:38,390 --> 01:34:36,560
will admit that too it wasn't official

2533
01:34:40,629 --> 01:34:38,400
it was something they did in their spare

2534
01:34:42,390 --> 01:34:40,639
time uh they had more than one job to

2535
01:34:45,189 --> 01:34:42,400
have a tip in their other jobs so that's

2536
01:34:46,790 --> 01:34:45,199
not really a revelation um the only

2537
01:34:48,550 --> 01:34:46,800
question is where did the loose says

2538
01:34:49,910 --> 01:34:48,560
they had funding likkowski said they

2539
01:34:51,990 --> 01:34:49,920
didn't have funding

2540
01:34:52,950 --> 01:34:52,000
so we'll see if lou talks about that in

2541
01:34:54,709 --> 01:34:52,960
the book

2542
01:34:56,229 --> 01:34:54,719
um

2543
01:34:59,030 --> 01:34:56,239
i would like to know i want to know

2544
01:35:00,310 --> 01:34:59,040
every aspect so

2545
01:35:04,070 --> 01:35:00,320
i want to know where their funding was

2546
01:35:07,669 --> 01:35:05,669
i'm sure you could blow 75 minutes

2547
01:35:09,750 --> 01:35:07,679
asking lou questions uh that would all

2548
01:35:11,510 --> 01:35:09,760
be i can't comment a couple of i can't

2549
01:35:13,189 --> 01:35:11,520
comments are okay because you know maybe

2550
01:35:14,550 --> 01:35:13,199
there's something there

2551
01:35:17,510 --> 01:35:14,560
lou would be fine with this too since he

2552
01:35:19,590 --> 01:35:17,520
always says you can't ask him anything

2553
01:35:21,910 --> 01:35:19,600
they'll all ask questions in a way he'll

2554
01:35:23,510 --> 01:35:21,920
be able to

2555
01:35:24,950 --> 01:35:23,520
you know it'll be hypo a lot of

2556
01:35:26,950 --> 01:35:24,960
hypotheticals

2557
01:35:28,629 --> 01:35:26,960
if you if you were in charge and this

2558
01:35:32,149 --> 01:35:28,639
happened how would you solve this type

2559
01:35:35,830 --> 01:35:34,629
yeah exactly it's the way you can ask a

2560
01:35:37,590 --> 01:35:35,840
question

2561
01:35:39,750 --> 01:35:37,600
he's already i've seen him ask

2562
01:35:41,750 --> 01:35:39,760
interviewers ask me differently and then

2563
01:35:43,270 --> 01:35:41,760
the person doesn't get it and

2564
01:35:44,310 --> 01:35:43,280
does it himself

2565
01:35:47,750 --> 01:35:44,320
um

2566
01:35:52,229 --> 01:35:49,350
yeah i'll have to think about when i'm

2567
01:35:52,950 --> 01:35:52,239
writing out my questions you know

2568
01:35:58,149 --> 01:35:52,960
i

2569
01:36:00,310 --> 01:35:58,159
source

2570
01:36:01,109 --> 01:36:00,320
it was a really i was proud of myself i

2571
01:36:02,870 --> 01:36:01,119
said

2572
01:36:04,870 --> 01:36:02,880
just suppose

2573
01:36:07,350 --> 01:36:04,880
you were doing this

2574
01:36:09,750 --> 01:36:07,360
would you do this or this and the answer

2575
01:36:11,750 --> 01:36:09,760
came back i would do this and i can't

2576
01:36:14,629 --> 01:36:11,760
tell you what this is i it would be

2577
01:36:17,109 --> 01:36:14,639
obvious exactly what i'm talking about

2578
01:36:19,590 --> 01:36:17,119
um but it was a great way to find out an

2579
01:36:21,910 --> 01:36:19,600
answer but even then i'm like

2580
01:36:23,590 --> 01:36:21,920
i don't and people are like think just

2581
01:36:26,149 --> 01:36:23,600
because the source tells me something i

2582
01:36:27,830 --> 01:36:26,159
believe it 100 it's like

2583
01:36:29,830 --> 01:36:27,840
i've had sources

2584
01:36:31,590 --> 01:36:29,840
i had one specific source give me

2585
01:36:35,510 --> 01:36:31,600
information that right away i was like

2586
01:36:37,430 --> 01:36:35,520
this is not true and it learned later

2587
01:36:39,350 --> 01:36:37,440
and i was like why did you give me that

2588
01:36:41,750 --> 01:36:39,360
information and it's like i'll still

2589
01:36:44,390 --> 01:36:41,760
talk to that person but

2590
01:36:46,390 --> 01:36:44,400
and that person kind of has noted

2591
01:36:48,870 --> 01:36:46,400
that they gave me bad information and i

2592
01:36:50,950 --> 01:36:48,880
know they knew it was bad information so

2593
01:36:51,910 --> 01:36:50,960
i'm aware of that i am aware of this

2594
01:36:54,310 --> 01:36:51,920
info

2595
01:36:57,030 --> 01:36:54,320
i am aware there are certain people that

2596
01:36:59,189 --> 01:36:57,040
don't want ufo information out in the

2597
01:37:00,790 --> 01:36:59,199
public sphere and will do what they need

2598
01:37:02,790 --> 01:37:00,800
to do

2599
01:37:03,990 --> 01:37:02,800
within reason then there are people that

2600
01:37:05,830 --> 01:37:04,000
are desperately trying to keep it

2601
01:37:07,590 --> 01:37:05,840
private and we've talked about that on

2602
01:37:09,350 --> 01:37:07,600
twitter with uh

2603
01:37:13,030 --> 01:37:09,360
the evangelical christians the collins

2604
01:37:15,990 --> 01:37:14,310
i'd love to ask lou if you were

2605
01:37:17,669 --> 01:37:16,000
responsible for managing the portfolio

2606
01:37:19,030 --> 01:37:17,679
of decades and were tasked with keeping

2607
01:37:20,870 --> 01:37:19,040
it out of congressional oversight how

2608
01:37:22,070 --> 01:37:20,880
would you go about doing it he probably

2609
01:37:23,590 --> 01:37:22,080
would say

2610
01:37:25,830 --> 01:37:23,600
yeah that's not a bad question he would

2611
01:37:27,990 --> 01:37:25,840
probably say exactly how they did it the

2612
01:37:29,910 --> 01:37:28,000
way it was done is pretty good eric

2613
01:37:31,189 --> 01:37:29,920
davis said they did it to keep it they

2614
01:37:32,629 --> 01:37:31,199
buried it so they would keep it away

2615
01:37:33,750 --> 01:37:32,639
from the folks who wanted to kill the

2616
01:37:34,870 --> 01:37:33,760
program because they thought it was

2617
01:37:36,790 --> 01:37:34,880
demonic

2618
01:37:39,510 --> 01:37:36,800
um

2619
01:37:41,669 --> 01:37:39,520
originally i'm not sure i mean

2620
01:37:43,830 --> 01:37:41,679
according to

2621
01:37:45,910 --> 01:37:43,840
who was oh nick redfern the original

2622
01:37:48,310 --> 01:37:45,920
collins elite type folks were very much

2623
01:37:50,629 --> 01:37:48,320
more open-minded and then you know

2624
01:37:52,149 --> 01:37:50,639
something

2625
01:37:54,870 --> 01:37:52,159
not necessarily

2626
01:37:56,390 --> 01:37:54,880
angelic demonic that now they supposedly

2627
01:37:58,629 --> 01:37:56,400
that's what they believe now but in the

2628
01:38:00,550 --> 01:37:58,639
old days it was more you know you know

2629
01:38:02,149 --> 01:38:00,560
interdimensional beings some of them may

2630
01:38:05,750 --> 01:38:02,159
be positive some of them

2631
01:38:08,229 --> 01:38:06,790
but

2632
01:38:10,310 --> 01:38:08,239
they've done a good job of keeping it

2633
01:38:12,310 --> 01:38:10,320
from congress hopefully that ends i

2634
01:38:14,790 --> 01:38:12,320
don't know how they're going to do it

2635
01:38:18,070 --> 01:38:16,229
you got to get somebody who can be read

2636
01:38:19,669 --> 01:38:18,080
into that program and then

2637
01:38:21,350 --> 01:38:19,679
if they decide this information is

2638
01:38:23,189 --> 01:38:21,360
something the world should know then

2639
01:38:26,149 --> 01:38:23,199
maybe that's how we'll get it

2640
01:38:27,590 --> 01:38:26,159
you believe certain races are ethnicity

2641
01:38:29,510 --> 01:38:27,600
necessities

2642
01:38:35,109 --> 01:38:29,520
sorry i'm struggling to talk right now

2643
01:38:38,629 --> 01:38:37,109
have highers have higher amounts of

2644
01:38:40,310 --> 01:38:38,639
failing dna

2645
01:38:42,310 --> 01:38:40,320
i have no idea

2646
01:38:43,990 --> 01:38:42,320
does that make them superior

2647
01:38:45,430 --> 01:38:44,000
will there be a disclosure health or

2648
01:38:47,830 --> 01:38:45,440
skelter

2649
01:38:51,350 --> 01:38:49,430
yeah i don't know

2650
01:38:52,870 --> 01:38:51,360
i don't know if we have any alien dna i

2651
01:38:55,109 --> 01:38:52,880
mean i've i've been

2652
01:38:56,830 --> 01:38:55,119
i got started in this with sitchin you

2653
01:38:59,270 --> 01:38:56,840
know zacharias sitchin

2654
01:39:01,910 --> 01:38:59,280
so i don't know how we proved that

2655
01:39:03,350 --> 01:39:01,920
science would do that dna um

2656
01:39:06,149 --> 01:39:03,360
we'd have to we'd have to compare it to

2657
01:39:08,550 --> 01:39:06,159
something else though if we get

2658
01:39:11,669 --> 01:39:08,560
we'd have to get the alien being that we

2659
01:39:14,070 --> 01:39:11,679
supposedly were you know

2660
01:39:15,750 --> 01:39:14,080
that interacted with us and

2661
01:39:17,590 --> 01:39:15,760
created us allegedly genetically

2662
01:39:19,030 --> 01:39:17,600
engineered and compared compare our dna

2663
01:39:20,790 --> 01:39:19,040
of course maybe they're

2664
01:39:22,470 --> 01:39:20,800
maybe that maybe their dna isn't that

2665
01:39:23,990 --> 01:39:22,480
far off from our so it will be very

2666
01:39:26,470 --> 01:39:24,000
difficult but i

2667
01:39:28,709 --> 01:39:26,480
don't i'm not a dna guy so

2668
01:39:31,189 --> 01:39:28,719
it's very basic

2669
01:39:32,790 --> 01:39:31,199
i'm fading quick i'm raising 10 puppies

2670
01:39:34,229 --> 01:39:32,800
sleep what is that everyone have a

2671
01:39:36,229 --> 01:39:34,239
kick-ass night

2672
01:39:38,790 --> 01:39:36,239
thanks pics yeah

2673
01:39:40,390 --> 01:39:38,800
good luck with the puppies

2674
01:39:42,790 --> 01:39:40,400
certain general journalist claims he has

2675
01:39:45,030 --> 01:39:42,800
some unseen info that supports lakatsuki

2676
01:39:48,390 --> 01:39:45,040
or elizondo you can probably guess what

2677
01:39:50,790 --> 01:39:48,400
i'm talking about i don't really know um

2678
01:39:52,550 --> 01:39:50,800
i need specifics would this even matter

2679
01:39:53,350 --> 01:39:52,560
as long as congress is looking into it

2680
01:39:55,189 --> 01:39:53,360
no

2681
01:39:56,629 --> 01:39:55,199
um

2682
01:39:58,550 --> 01:39:56,639
but

2683
01:40:00,629 --> 01:39:58,560
you know whether or not

2684
01:40:03,030 --> 01:40:00,639
lou has said without awesome there would

2685
01:40:05,030 --> 01:40:03,040
be no atip so

2686
01:40:06,390 --> 01:40:05,040
um let's see what comes in lou's book

2687
01:40:08,070 --> 01:40:06,400
lou's book will come out and let's see

2688
01:40:09,430 --> 01:40:08,080
if the casket does more interviews he

2689
01:40:11,430 --> 01:40:09,440
obviously doesn't really like being in

2690
01:40:14,310 --> 01:40:11,440
the public eye so

2691
01:40:16,709 --> 01:40:14,320
um i need to know specifically

2692
01:40:17,830 --> 01:40:16,719
supports like catskill what part support

2693
01:40:18,950 --> 01:40:17,840
i mean

2694
01:40:21,510 --> 01:40:18,960
we know

2695
01:40:23,030 --> 01:40:21,520
asap was a fully funded program no no

2696
01:40:25,590 --> 01:40:23,040
there's no way i don't think lew is

2697
01:40:27,270 --> 01:40:25,600
claiming the funding atip got matched

2698
01:40:29,109 --> 01:40:27,280
awesome i don't think he's claiming that

2699
01:40:31,430 --> 01:40:29,119
he's claiming they had funding how much

2700
01:40:34,149 --> 01:40:31,440
i don't know asap was two years 50

2701
01:40:38,390 --> 01:40:34,159
full-time employees and other folks um

2702
01:40:41,830 --> 01:40:39,830
can i ask a question what does it matter

2703
01:40:43,669 --> 01:40:41,840
at this point what question or who you

2704
01:40:45,510 --> 01:40:43,679
ask it is we have

2705
01:40:47,270 --> 01:40:45,520
company are we always going to get the

2706
01:40:49,270 --> 01:40:47,280
answers we are allowed to get i'm not

2707
01:40:51,270 --> 01:40:49,280
sure what you're asking um

2708
01:40:53,830 --> 01:40:51,280
what does it matter i mean i

2709
01:40:55,109 --> 01:40:53,840
for me i like doing this so

2710
01:40:57,189 --> 01:40:55,119
i'm going to keep doing it if people

2711
01:40:58,790 --> 01:40:57,199
want to watch they'll listen they can

2712
01:41:00,310 --> 01:40:58,800
other people think it's a waste of time

2713
01:41:02,070 --> 01:41:00,320
to even talk about

2714
01:41:04,310 --> 01:41:02,080
the government aspect and all that stuff

2715
01:41:06,070 --> 01:41:04,320
but i love that stuff i like but i like

2716
01:41:08,149 --> 01:41:06,080
every aspect of it i like this i love

2717
01:41:09,270 --> 01:41:08,159
the nuts and bolts i love

2718
01:41:13,910 --> 01:41:09,280
the

2719
01:41:15,270 --> 01:41:13,920
trying to figure it out i want to try to

2720
01:41:16,870 --> 01:41:15,280
figure it out do i think i'm smart

2721
01:41:19,510 --> 01:41:16,880
enough to figure out what the phenomenon

2722
01:41:21,910 --> 01:41:19,520
is no but if i share enough information

2723
01:41:24,629 --> 01:41:21,920
from various sources maybe we as a group

2724
01:41:27,990 --> 01:41:24,639
can figure out maybe one aspect of it

2725
01:41:30,950 --> 01:41:29,350
i don't know if things will change as

2726
01:41:32,310 --> 01:41:30,960
far as information sharing i mean i

2727
01:41:35,030 --> 01:41:32,320
never thought we'd get to the point we

2728
01:41:37,510 --> 01:41:35,040
are now and i've been doing it for

2729
01:41:39,669 --> 01:41:37,520
26 years um

2730
01:41:42,229 --> 01:41:39,679
so yeah i mean

2731
01:41:43,910 --> 01:41:42,239
the last four years have been amazing

2732
01:41:45,669 --> 01:41:43,920
never thought this would happen so if

2733
01:41:47,270 --> 01:41:45,679
you had asked me in 2016 i'd probably

2734
01:41:48,790 --> 01:41:47,280
say you know what shelley you're right

2735
01:41:50,470 --> 01:41:48,800
we're not really getting anywhere

2736
01:41:51,270 --> 01:41:50,480
they're obviously here

2737
01:41:52,709 --> 01:41:51,280
but

2738
01:41:53,830 --> 01:41:52,719
they're in control too if they want to

2739
01:41:55,669 --> 01:41:53,840
end this

2740
01:41:57,669 --> 01:41:55,679
tomorrow they could they could show up

2741
01:41:59,189 --> 01:41:57,679
in masses they can come down they can

2742
01:42:00,950 --> 01:41:59,199
communicate with us

2743
01:42:02,950 --> 01:42:00,960
um somebody recently i don't know who

2744
01:42:04,229 --> 01:42:02,960
said it but it was on twitter like

2745
01:42:05,350 --> 01:42:04,239
people like we may not be able to

2746
01:42:07,350 --> 01:42:05,360
communicate with them they're so

2747
01:42:09,830 --> 01:42:07,360
advanced but somebody's like

2748
01:42:12,870 --> 01:42:09,840
um i think if they wanted to communicate

2749
01:42:14,790 --> 01:42:12,880
they could um

2750
01:42:17,030 --> 01:42:14,800
i mean people get telepathic messages

2751
01:42:20,149 --> 01:42:17,040
that they understand you know clean up

2752
01:42:23,510 --> 01:42:22,070
take care of your planet

2753
01:42:25,189 --> 01:42:23,520
um so

2754
01:42:27,590 --> 01:42:25,199
maybe they can do really basic things

2755
01:42:30,310 --> 01:42:27,600
like that

2756
01:42:32,709 --> 01:42:30,320
in the hyper theory video by tupacabra

2757
01:42:35,030 --> 01:42:32,719
sg claims that someone told them we were

2758
01:42:36,709 --> 01:42:35,040
hybrids

2759
01:42:39,669 --> 01:42:36,719
i thought he would tell

2760
01:42:42,709 --> 01:42:39,679
um who told him that

2761
01:42:46,229 --> 01:42:44,070
i don't know if you got that information

2762
01:42:48,229 --> 01:42:46,239
from government sources

2763
01:42:49,990 --> 01:42:48,239
would it surprise me if somebody proved

2764
01:42:52,470 --> 01:42:50,000
that we have some connection and we're

2765
01:42:54,550 --> 01:42:52,480
hybrids to some degree no

2766
01:42:57,669 --> 01:42:54,560
but i don't know if that's the case i

2767
01:43:02,310 --> 01:42:57,679
know that seems like a cop out but

2768
01:43:08,070 --> 01:43:05,510
really interested in the whole aoi

2769
01:43:10,229 --> 01:43:08,080
aio msg

2770
01:43:12,790 --> 01:43:10,239
aeiou and if the pentagon is going to

2771
01:43:15,109 --> 01:43:12,800
successfully take over that operational

2772
01:43:15,990 --> 01:43:15,119
responsibility as lou said recently he

2773
01:43:18,310 --> 01:43:16,000
said

2774
01:43:20,070 --> 01:43:18,320
the worry was that office you know the

2775
01:43:21,350 --> 01:43:20,080
office of the under secretary of defense

2776
01:43:23,350 --> 01:43:21,360
for intelligence

2777
01:43:24,950 --> 01:43:23,360
i think they've added security to that

2778
01:43:27,270 --> 01:43:24,960
name um

2779
01:43:29,510 --> 01:43:27,280
oh usdi

2780
01:43:30,870 --> 01:43:29,520
there actually he said lu said they're

2781
01:43:32,629 --> 01:43:30,880
actually

2782
01:43:35,030 --> 01:43:32,639
getting with the program lately so

2783
01:43:36,870 --> 01:43:35,040
that's good news the folks he was really

2784
01:43:39,189 --> 01:43:36,880
worried about maybe they see the writing

2785
01:43:40,629 --> 01:43:39,199
on the wall now that congress is focused

2786
01:43:43,510 --> 01:43:40,639
on them as long as congress stays on

2787
01:43:45,590 --> 01:43:43,520
this and like you know we saw with

2788
01:43:47,750 --> 01:43:45,600
senator gillibrand you know talking with

2789
01:43:48,870 --> 01:43:47,760
the guy who was up for the new

2790
01:43:51,189 --> 01:43:48,880
um

2791
01:43:54,070 --> 01:43:51,199
inspector general you know she grilled

2792
01:43:57,510 --> 01:43:54,080
him she's like before

2793
01:43:59,189 --> 01:43:57,520
before you are you are if you know

2794
01:44:01,270 --> 01:43:59,199
before you become the new attorney

2795
01:44:03,430 --> 01:44:01,280
inspector general you need to have the

2796
01:44:05,910 --> 01:44:03,440
answer to those two questions about the

2797
01:44:08,470 --> 01:44:05,920
dod and how they've handled the uaps in

2798
01:44:10,310 --> 01:44:08,480
writing to me before we vote so as long

2799
01:44:12,550 --> 01:44:10,320
as she stays on it and other folks stay

2800
01:44:14,149 --> 01:44:12,560
on it then maybe the ousdi is going to

2801
01:44:16,550 --> 01:44:14,159
be like you know we really can't ignore

2802
01:44:23,189 --> 01:44:16,560
this anymore we can't you know up

2803
01:44:27,350 --> 01:44:25,430
is will you be asking lou if there's a

2804
01:44:28,790 --> 01:44:27,360
point when topics like skin walk or

2805
01:44:30,229 --> 01:44:28,800
hitchhiker remote viewing will enter the

2806
01:44:31,669 --> 01:44:30,239
discussion in congress mainstream

2807
01:44:32,310 --> 01:44:31,679
discussions

2808
01:44:36,550 --> 01:44:32,320
i

2809
01:44:39,830 --> 01:44:38,310
part of that already has entered the

2810
01:44:42,950 --> 01:44:39,840
language when they're talking about

2811
01:44:44,470 --> 01:44:42,960
human related effects um because

2812
01:44:46,229 --> 01:44:44,480
if they do it the right way and they

2813
01:44:49,750 --> 01:44:46,239
spend time with the witnesses who do

2814
01:44:51,750 --> 01:44:49,760
have human related effects from uap

2815
01:44:53,750 --> 01:44:51,760
they're going to get those stories it's

2816
01:44:55,189 --> 01:44:53,760
just part of it if there are people who

2817
01:44:56,950 --> 01:44:55,199
have had close encounters there's going

2818
01:44:59,590 --> 01:44:56,960
to be poltergeist activity in some of

2819
01:45:01,510 --> 01:44:59,600
those folks that's just how it is

2820
01:45:03,189 --> 01:45:01,520
column keller talked about

2821
01:45:05,669 --> 01:45:03,199
hessdalen and norway and he also talked

2822
01:45:07,510 --> 01:45:05,679
about malmstrom and he said those folks

2823
01:45:09,030 --> 01:45:07,520
in the area they had

2824
01:45:11,350 --> 01:45:09,040
not just ufo sightings they had the

2825
01:45:14,550 --> 01:45:11,360
poltergeist activity that kind of shadow

2826
01:45:16,070 --> 01:45:14,560
beings it happens everywhere it's just

2827
01:45:18,229 --> 01:45:16,080
whether or not they start talking about

2828
01:45:20,149 --> 01:45:18,239
it openly in congress i think that's a

2829
01:45:22,310 --> 01:45:20,159
ways down the road

2830
01:45:24,390 --> 01:45:22,320
let's just get to where we are right now

2831
01:45:26,070 --> 01:45:24,400
and see what happens

2832
01:45:28,070 --> 01:45:26,080
obviously if the witnesses are able to

2833
01:45:29,669 --> 01:45:28,080
speak freely then it's going to come up

2834
01:45:31,030 --> 01:45:29,679
but even those witnesses may not want to

2835
01:45:32,870 --> 01:45:31,040
bring it up and you know they don't want

2836
01:45:35,910 --> 01:45:32,880
to hurt their credibility at this point

2837
01:45:41,750 --> 01:45:35,920
it's still stigma with ufos let alone

2838
01:45:45,270 --> 01:45:43,590
have any of the people you interviewed

2839
01:45:47,510 --> 01:45:45,280
ever been threatened for covering these

2840
01:45:49,109 --> 01:45:47,520
broad range of topics no

2841
01:45:50,310 --> 01:45:49,119
i've never heard of anybody threatened

2842
01:45:52,390 --> 01:45:50,320
or have you been discouraged from

2843
01:45:53,910 --> 01:45:52,400
touching certain topics the only thing

2844
01:45:56,629 --> 01:45:53,920
i'll say is

2845
01:45:59,109 --> 01:45:56,639
somebody did suggest that i don't use

2846
01:46:01,109 --> 01:45:59,119
specific names when talking about the

2847
01:46:03,669 --> 01:46:01,119
air force and the collins elite

2848
01:46:06,229 --> 01:46:03,679
evangelical types because

2849
01:46:08,470 --> 01:46:06,239
for me it's smart evidence

2850
01:46:10,550 --> 01:46:08,480
it's smart advice because i mean i don't

2851
01:46:13,109 --> 01:46:10,560
have i don't have evidence that those

2852
01:46:15,270 --> 01:46:13,119
specific people are part of the problem

2853
01:46:17,030 --> 01:46:15,280
so

2854
01:46:18,870 --> 01:46:17,040
it's just not smart to be mentioning

2855
01:46:20,709 --> 01:46:18,880
names like that but

2856
01:46:22,629 --> 01:46:20,719
nobody has warned me off or discouraged

2857
01:46:24,550 --> 01:46:22,639
me from talking about anything that i

2858
01:46:26,870 --> 01:46:24,560
can think of i'm trying to think

2859
01:46:29,189 --> 01:46:26,880
no just you know just not use just not

2860
01:46:31,189 --> 01:46:29,199
to use specific names

2861
01:46:38,070 --> 01:46:31,199
man i am really far behind on these

2862
01:46:38,080 --> 01:46:41,430
let's see

2863
01:46:44,390 --> 01:46:42,950
they since they claim that's the group

2864
01:46:45,830 --> 01:46:44,400
they intend to use to achieve the

2865
01:46:47,189 --> 01:46:45,840
defense bill's requirements yeah we'll

2866
01:46:48,790 --> 01:46:47,199
see if that

2867
01:46:50,629 --> 01:46:48,800
aoi group

2868
01:46:52,229 --> 01:46:50,639
is the one it's fine i don't care what

2869
01:46:53,830 --> 01:46:52,239
it's called i don't care what group i

2870
01:46:55,750 --> 01:46:53,840
don't care where it is as long as they

2871
01:46:57,830 --> 01:46:55,760
do what they what they're supposed to do

2872
01:46:59,189 --> 01:46:57,840
that's all that matters and as long as

2873
01:47:01,030 --> 01:46:59,199
congress stays on them they're gonna

2874
01:47:02,470 --> 01:47:01,040
have to do it if they don't i mean it

2875
01:47:04,709 --> 01:47:02,480
they could drag it out a little bit

2876
01:47:08,550 --> 01:47:04,719
which sucks but eventually as long as

2877
01:47:10,629 --> 01:47:08,560
gillibrand and rubio and and

2878
01:47:11,990 --> 01:47:10,639
gallego don't lose interest we'll get to

2879
01:47:13,830 --> 01:47:12,000
where we want to go just may take a

2880
01:47:14,790 --> 01:47:13,840
little more time

2881
01:47:16,390 --> 01:47:14,800
what do you think about what happened

2882
01:47:18,790 --> 01:47:16,400
with the cnn interview about the tic tac

2883
01:47:26,390 --> 01:47:18,800
in the 60s that skyford claim was a cia

2884
01:47:31,270 --> 01:47:28,790
sky 4 claim was a cia report i mean you

2885
01:47:32,790 --> 01:47:31,280
talk about what lou talked about

2886
01:47:34,790 --> 01:47:32,800
um he said it was

2887
01:47:37,109 --> 01:47:34,800
declassified recently i haven't launched

2888
01:47:37,990 --> 01:47:37,119
the green straight green green walls

2889
01:47:40,950 --> 01:47:38,000
video

2890
01:47:42,390 --> 01:47:40,960
um

2891
01:47:44,629 --> 01:47:42,400
i think they're making a bigger thing a

2892
01:47:48,390 --> 01:47:44,639
deal out of that blue made a mistake

2893
01:47:52,390 --> 01:47:50,390
and people make mistakes and people

2894
01:47:54,149 --> 01:47:52,400
think it's some psy up and lose lying to

2895
01:47:56,149 --> 01:47:54,159
us and you per it's like why would you

2896
01:47:58,229 --> 01:47:56,159
purposely lie when it's so easy he

2897
01:47:59,430 --> 01:47:58,239
obviously did not realize that document

2898
01:48:00,629 --> 01:47:59,440
had been if you're talking about the

2899
01:48:02,950 --> 01:48:00,639
same document

2900
01:48:05,109 --> 01:48:02,960
uh with et communication maybe i'm

2901
01:48:06,709 --> 01:48:05,119
thinking about something different

2902
01:48:08,390 --> 01:48:06,719
people who are intent on digging up dirt

2903
01:48:09,990 --> 01:48:08,400
on lulu need to yeah it's like it's just

2904
01:48:12,390 --> 01:48:10,000
like come on

2905
01:48:14,550 --> 01:48:12,400
him and melon as much as i disagree with

2906
01:48:16,550 --> 01:48:14,560
melon and lou on various things over the

2907
01:48:18,550 --> 01:48:16,560
years but so what

2908
01:48:20,390 --> 01:48:18,560
look at the work they're doing i mean

2909
01:48:22,709 --> 01:48:20,400
there are still people who think they're

2910
01:48:24,870 --> 01:48:22,719
both part of a psyop and

2911
01:48:26,470 --> 01:48:24,880
or lou is being fooled by people in the

2912
01:48:28,709 --> 01:48:26,480
government who are carrying out a psyop

2913
01:48:29,910 --> 01:48:28,719
and lou doesn't realize it

2914
01:48:31,830 --> 01:48:29,920
do you think the nuts and bolts are

2915
01:48:36,149 --> 01:48:31,840
related to the poltergeist incidents or

2916
01:48:38,629 --> 01:48:36,780
um

2917
01:48:40,310 --> 01:48:38,639
[Music]

2918
01:48:41,910 --> 01:48:40,320
it depends on if the nuts and bolts are

2919
01:48:44,310 --> 01:48:41,920
how the nuts and bolts are created i

2920
01:48:45,669 --> 01:48:44,320
mean if it's regular manufacturing no

2921
01:48:47,910 --> 01:48:45,679
but if it's

2922
01:48:49,109 --> 01:48:47,920
something that can create a craft out of

2923
01:48:50,550 --> 01:48:49,119
thin air

2924
01:48:52,790 --> 01:48:50,560
then maybe that's connected to the

2925
01:48:55,750 --> 01:48:52,800
poltergeist i mean that's really it is a

2926
01:48:57,669 --> 01:48:55,760
really huge question um just

2927
01:48:59,109 --> 01:48:57,679
for whatever reason

2928
01:49:00,950 --> 01:48:59,119
whenever people come close to these

2929
01:49:03,510 --> 01:49:00,960
craft and whether or not they are true

2930
01:49:04,470 --> 01:49:03,520
nuts and bolts craft i don't know

2931
01:49:06,070 --> 01:49:04,480
um

2932
01:49:07,590 --> 01:49:06,080
i was listening to somebody talk about

2933
01:49:09,830 --> 01:49:07,600
seances today when the physical

2934
01:49:12,229 --> 01:49:09,840
mediumship that goes on in a seance room

2935
01:49:15,030 --> 01:49:12,239
where the objects in the room just fly

2936
01:49:17,109 --> 01:49:15,040
up and down so fast they fly around the

2937
01:49:18,870 --> 01:49:17,119
room they don't hit anybody in the head

2938
01:49:21,109 --> 01:49:18,880
it's in pitch darkness

2939
01:49:22,709 --> 01:49:21,119
um

2940
01:49:23,910 --> 01:49:22,719
similar to your ufo

2941
01:49:25,510 --> 01:49:23,920
but you know i don't know if they're

2942
01:49:27,589 --> 01:49:25,520
connected or not i've made that

2943
01:49:29,669 --> 01:49:27,599
speculation that some of the poltergeist

2944
01:49:31,910 --> 01:49:29,679
activity and the

2945
01:49:34,390 --> 01:49:31,920
the beings from another dimension might

2946
01:49:36,070 --> 01:49:34,400
be the same beings in a in a seance but

2947
01:49:37,270 --> 01:49:36,080
as far as

2948
01:49:40,390 --> 01:49:37,280
connecting

2949
01:49:41,510 --> 01:49:40,400
to nuts and bolts i'm not sure

2950
01:49:43,270 --> 01:49:41,520
and now i'm talking too much and

2951
01:49:44,629 --> 01:49:43,280
starting to get lightheaded also i think

2952
01:49:45,990 --> 01:49:44,639
she asked a little about close

2953
01:49:49,109 --> 01:49:46,000
encounters what he said in gq was

2954
01:49:52,470 --> 01:49:50,709
the movie i don't wanna yeah i don't

2955
01:49:57,830 --> 01:49:52,480
i'll i i need to ask him about his own

2956
01:50:01,149 --> 01:49:59,830
close encounters was the first one i saw

2957
01:50:06,950 --> 01:50:01,159
when i was

2958
01:50:11,030 --> 01:50:09,510
sh shelley says i love you

2959
01:50:12,629 --> 01:50:11,040
say hearing you say that but i don't

2960
01:50:13,669 --> 01:50:12,639
know what you're talking about what did

2961
01:50:14,629 --> 01:50:13,679
i say

2962
01:50:16,470 --> 01:50:14,639
um

2963
01:50:18,310 --> 01:50:16,480
not trying to get you to bulge your

2964
01:50:20,310 --> 01:50:18,320
questions early yeah i'm not going to

2965
01:50:22,070 --> 01:50:20,320
but do you want to bring up in a clever

2966
01:50:24,629 --> 01:50:22,080
way that delong's timeline will louis

2967
01:50:25,350 --> 01:50:24,639
louise is in anyway

2968
01:50:31,270 --> 01:50:25,360
no

2969
01:50:34,790 --> 01:50:31,280
um because he's gonna say that's what

2970
01:50:36,830 --> 01:50:34,800
tom did and i can't talk speak for tom

2971
01:50:40,470 --> 01:50:36,840
um the long timeline will louise in any

2972
01:50:42,310 --> 01:50:40,480
capacity in his contacts

2973
01:50:43,910 --> 01:50:42,320
i mean i could bring up mccaslin but i

2974
01:50:45,910 --> 01:50:43,920
don't think lou's gonna talk about that

2975
01:50:49,669 --> 01:50:45,920
so he doesn't like talking about other

2976
01:50:58,870 --> 01:50:49,679
people unless he has their okay so

2977
01:51:02,229 --> 01:51:00,550
he's not going to speak for tom that's

2978
01:51:03,750 --> 01:51:02,239
the one thing so i wouldn't spend a

2979
01:51:05,270 --> 01:51:03,760
question on that i don't think lou is

2980
01:51:08,310 --> 01:51:05,280
part of that

2981
01:51:10,709 --> 01:51:08,320
beginning

2982
01:51:12,470 --> 01:51:10,719
um he was asked later if somehow just

2983
01:51:14,310 --> 01:51:12,480
let's say for argument's sake lou was

2984
01:51:15,669 --> 01:51:14,320
part of the beginning and never told us

2985
01:51:17,750 --> 01:51:15,679
i don't think he would admit it at this

2986
01:51:23,030 --> 01:51:17,760
point but i don't think he was

2987
01:51:27,669 --> 01:51:25,589
i've never done ce5 i've never done a

2988
01:51:29,430 --> 01:51:27,679
seance but i know i know a decent amount

2989
01:51:32,149 --> 01:51:29,440
about seances because i love physical

2990
01:51:35,189 --> 01:51:32,159
mediumship um

2991
01:51:36,870 --> 01:51:35,199
i don't know i don't know

2992
01:51:38,870 --> 01:51:36,880
if there's a if there's a similarity

2993
01:51:40,790 --> 01:51:38,880
between ce5 and a sans but the

2994
01:51:42,790 --> 01:51:40,800
similarities i do see is with

2995
01:51:44,070 --> 01:51:42,800
poltergeist activity

2996
01:51:46,470 --> 01:51:44,080
um

2997
01:51:48,550 --> 01:51:46,480
a lot of times the phenomena takes a

2998
01:51:50,070 --> 01:51:48,560
while to build up

2999
01:51:51,750 --> 01:51:50,080
come up

3000
01:51:53,589 --> 01:51:51,760
come on

3001
01:51:54,870 --> 01:51:53,599
the phenomena

3002
01:51:56,709 --> 01:51:54,880
he's not supposed to be on camera

3003
01:51:58,870 --> 01:51:56,719
because he needs a grooming

3004
01:52:01,270 --> 01:51:58,880
but he's here so

3005
01:52:02,950 --> 01:52:01,280
look at that guy he needs a grooming so

3006
01:52:05,109 --> 01:52:02,960
bad right

3007
01:52:07,589 --> 01:52:05,119
it's been so long

3008
01:52:09,910 --> 01:52:07,599
he's so overgrown um

3009
01:52:11,990 --> 01:52:09,920
so poltergeist

3010
01:52:13,350 --> 01:52:12,000
the the stuff starts out like just

3011
01:52:15,510 --> 01:52:13,360
light tapping and it builds and it

3012
01:52:16,950 --> 01:52:15,520
builds and it builds over time um

3013
01:52:18,229 --> 01:52:16,960
seances are like that too physical

3014
01:52:19,189 --> 01:52:18,239
mediumship

3015
01:52:21,030 --> 01:52:19,199
so

3016
01:52:22,470 --> 01:52:21,040
it starts off with very basic phenomena

3017
01:52:26,229 --> 01:52:22,480
and

3018
01:52:28,470 --> 01:52:26,239
builds up

3019
01:52:30,550 --> 01:52:28,480
more and more and more so there may be a

3020
01:52:31,990 --> 01:52:30,560
connection there paul eno says he thinks

3021
01:52:34,470 --> 01:52:32,000
with the poltergeist activity it starts

3022
01:52:36,470 --> 01:52:34,480
off very little it scares you with

3023
01:52:39,109 --> 01:52:36,480
little knocking in the walls you get

3024
01:52:40,629 --> 01:52:39,119
fearful it feeds off that energy of fear

3025
01:52:42,390 --> 01:52:40,639
and then it gets worse and worse and it

3026
01:52:44,390 --> 01:52:42,400
feeds off and it gets stronger you know

3027
01:52:47,589 --> 01:52:44,400
i do that theory does interest me that

3028
01:52:50,149 --> 01:52:47,599
there are parasites um

3029
01:52:51,189 --> 01:52:50,159
all right you gotta go

3030
01:52:53,510 --> 01:52:51,199
um

3031
01:52:55,189 --> 01:52:53,520
not demons but

3032
01:52:56,790 --> 01:52:55,199
uh he's not the first one that said

3033
01:52:58,390 --> 01:52:56,800
these things feed off of negative

3034
01:52:59,669 --> 01:52:58,400
negative energy there's been a long line

3035
01:53:04,070 --> 01:52:59,679
of people over the years who have said

3036
01:53:09,350 --> 01:53:06,470
yeah i don't think uh lou is gonna talk

3037
01:53:10,870 --> 01:53:09,360
about life forms but like i said there

3038
01:53:12,470 --> 01:53:10,880
are ways to ask certain questions and i

3039
01:53:15,910 --> 01:53:12,480
do have some

3040
01:53:18,950 --> 01:53:15,920
in my head that i'll have written down

3041
01:53:24,550 --> 01:53:21,350
yeah valet didn't think the ending was

3042
01:53:29,189 --> 01:53:24,560
you know he doesn't think they're ets so

3043
01:53:32,229 --> 01:53:30,550
oh lou said i don't think you have to

3044
01:53:34,310 --> 01:53:32,239
contact anybody right now except to

3045
01:53:35,510 --> 01:53:34,320
thank these folks for doing what they're

3046
01:53:38,950 --> 01:53:35,520
doing you can write a letter to

3047
01:53:40,550 --> 01:53:38,960
gillibrand rubio gallego all those folks

3048
01:53:42,550 --> 01:53:40,560
and just say thank you for doing that

3049
01:53:43,990 --> 01:53:42,560
that's what lou suggested he didn't say

3050
01:53:46,229 --> 01:53:44,000
you don't need to get on the case or

3051
01:53:49,510 --> 01:53:46,239
anything like that to do this we have

3052
01:53:50,709 --> 01:53:49,520
the andy ndaa was passed so just contact

3053
01:53:52,229 --> 01:53:50,719
them and thank them for sticking their

3054
01:53:54,229 --> 01:53:52,239
necks out and talking about a subject

3055
01:53:56,229 --> 01:53:54,239
that is tough you know melon gave them

3056
01:53:58,870 --> 01:53:56,239
an out by saying this is about national

3057
01:54:00,550 --> 01:53:58,880
security and about flight safety so they

3058
01:54:03,030 --> 01:54:00,560
can start out with that we'll get to the

3059
01:54:05,109 --> 01:54:03,040
other stuff down the road um if those if

3060
01:54:07,109 --> 01:54:05,119
the 23 minute video or some video is

3061
01:54:08,470 --> 01:54:07,119
showing 90 degree turns

3062
01:54:09,990 --> 01:54:08,480
um

3063
01:54:11,589 --> 01:54:10,000
ever get out then we can go from there

3064
01:54:13,030 --> 01:54:11,599
and hopefully as lou said people will

3065
01:54:14,629 --> 01:54:13,040
realize on their own that we're dealing

3066
01:54:16,229 --> 01:54:14,639
with something that's not

3067
01:54:17,510 --> 01:54:16,239
it's not an adversary and it's not our

3068
01:54:18,790 --> 01:54:17,520
tech

3069
01:54:20,390 --> 01:54:18,800
yes cookie

3070
01:54:22,790 --> 01:54:20,400
cookie is camera ready but he definitely

3071
01:54:24,950 --> 01:54:22,800
needs a grooming um

3072
01:54:30,310 --> 01:54:24,960
what do you think about

3073
01:54:34,149 --> 01:54:31,830
i don't know i mean a lot of things

3074
01:54:35,830 --> 01:54:34,159
delong says i don't think the long lies

3075
01:54:38,629 --> 01:54:35,840
i think the long tell stories of

3076
01:54:39,910 --> 01:54:38,639
information he's been told um whether or

3077
01:54:42,149 --> 01:54:39,920
not he's been told the truth i don't

3078
01:54:44,149 --> 01:54:42,159
know but if tom says like so-and-so met

3079
01:54:45,430 --> 01:54:44,159
with me and told me this i believe it

3080
01:54:50,629 --> 01:54:45,440
the question is did they tell him the

3081
01:54:53,350 --> 01:54:50,639
truth so there's no way to know that um

3082
01:54:55,109 --> 01:54:53,360
i do hope he gets you know i hope his

3083
01:54:56,550 --> 01:54:55,119
movie does well and they make a ton of

3084
01:54:58,790 --> 01:54:56,560
money off of that and not because i own

3085
01:55:02,390 --> 01:54:58,800
stock because i own 250 in stock big

3086
01:55:04,870 --> 01:55:02,400
deal i want them to be successful

3087
01:55:06,950 --> 01:55:04,880
oh yes the connected i think there's a

3088
01:55:09,109 --> 01:55:06,960
connection i don't know about ce5 but i

3089
01:55:11,910 --> 01:55:09,119
think seances and

3090
01:55:15,510 --> 01:55:11,920
poltergeist activity and ufos because

3091
01:55:17,510 --> 01:55:15,520
paul eno said they were in the 70s 73

3092
01:55:19,830 --> 01:55:17,520
walker thank you very much thank you

3093
01:55:20,950 --> 01:55:19,840
thank you thank you thank you

3094
01:55:22,709 --> 01:55:20,960
um

3095
01:55:25,510 --> 01:55:22,719
i appreciate that

3096
01:55:27,669 --> 01:55:25,520
paul eno in the 70s said in 1973 he was

3097
01:55:29,750 --> 01:55:27,679
involved with a priest who was doing

3098
01:55:31,350 --> 01:55:29,760
possessions uh five out of the

3099
01:55:33,510 --> 01:55:31,360
possession i think it was five out of

3100
01:55:34,390 --> 01:55:33,520
the seven possession cases

3101
01:55:36,149 --> 01:55:34,400
had

3102
01:55:38,149 --> 01:55:36,159
close encounters with you know some of

3103
01:55:39,430 --> 01:55:38,159
them look like grays so there might be a

3104
01:55:41,589 --> 01:55:39,440
connection between

3105
01:55:44,470 --> 01:55:41,599
abductions and possession it might be

3106
01:55:46,709 --> 01:55:44,480
the same type of beings um

3107
01:55:48,629 --> 01:55:46,719
i am going to interview paul you know

3108
01:55:50,149 --> 01:55:48,639
and it's going to be

3109
01:55:51,589 --> 01:55:50,159
that's that's i'm look i'm looking

3110
01:55:53,830 --> 01:55:51,599
forward to that hopefully he will come

3111
01:55:55,510 --> 01:55:53,840
on and let me talk to him because i am

3112
01:55:57,589 --> 01:55:55,520
in the same a lot of what he says i

3113
01:55:59,830 --> 01:55:57,599
agree with

3114
01:56:02,390 --> 01:55:59,840
as far as theories it's all still a

3115
01:56:06,149 --> 01:56:02,400
theory so just remember that

3116
01:56:11,830 --> 01:56:07,669
i'm sorry if i haven't gone to every

3117
01:56:14,629 --> 01:56:13,270
yeah i don't know

3118
01:56:16,790 --> 01:56:14,639
if tom

3119
01:56:18,310 --> 01:56:16,800
i don't know i mean

3120
01:56:20,950 --> 01:56:18,320
you know some people talk about how

3121
01:56:22,390 --> 01:56:20,960
they're trying to communicate with us

3122
01:56:24,870 --> 01:56:22,400
trying to send us a message trying to

3123
01:56:26,790 --> 01:56:24,880
get us to evolve to a certain level by

3124
01:56:29,030 --> 01:56:26,800
sending us symbolic messages and then

3125
01:56:31,830 --> 01:56:29,040
you have people like tom saying

3126
01:56:32,550 --> 01:56:31,840
you know it's all bad news um

3127
01:56:37,030 --> 01:56:32,560
the

3128
01:56:39,510 --> 01:56:37,040
i'm open to all that i just wish i knew

3129
01:56:40,629 --> 01:56:39,520
which one it was i don't know

3130
01:56:42,629 --> 01:56:40,639
um

3131
01:56:47,270 --> 01:56:42,639
curious to see the next war book with

3132
01:56:53,589 --> 01:56:48,950
i don't think yeah it's i think it's a

3133
01:56:55,109 --> 01:56:53,599
wasted question no offense uip i mean

3134
01:56:57,589 --> 01:56:55,119
um

3135
01:56:59,830 --> 01:56:57,599
i don't think he's gonna say

3136
01:57:02,870 --> 01:56:59,840
i you know maybe he might answer how

3137
01:57:05,669 --> 01:57:02,880
much how much investigating like

3138
01:57:08,870 --> 01:57:05,679
days weeks

3139
01:57:10,390 --> 01:57:08,880
you know have you done on roswell

3140
01:57:12,629 --> 01:57:10,400
i mean for me for lewd to say he

3141
01:57:14,629 --> 01:57:12,639
believes roswell 100 you know eric davis

3142
01:57:15,830 --> 01:57:14,639
has said it um then you have marek who's

3143
01:57:17,270 --> 01:57:15,840
written the articles for the hill he's

3144
01:57:19,350 --> 01:57:17,280
like i don't believe it and he quoted

3145
01:57:22,229 --> 01:57:19,360
from the air force report and then he

3146
01:57:25,589 --> 01:57:22,239
quoted from another guy carl flock

3147
01:57:29,189 --> 01:57:27,270
i wish i could interview davis because

3148
01:57:30,709 --> 01:57:29,199
he would be the one to ask

3149
01:57:34,149 --> 01:57:30,719
because he would go further than lou

3150
01:57:37,589 --> 01:57:35,430
and thank you for the comments about

3151
01:57:39,030 --> 01:57:37,599
cookie he is 10 years old and still acts

3152
01:57:40,390 --> 01:57:39,040
like a puppy i don't know when he's

3153
01:57:41,430 --> 01:57:40,400
going to slow down i mean they don't

3154
01:57:46,070 --> 01:57:41,440
live

3155
01:57:48,629 --> 01:57:47,350
yeah i don't

3156
01:57:51,030 --> 01:57:48,639
and and

3157
01:57:52,229 --> 01:57:51,040
and that's why i don't do ce4 i don't

3158
01:57:53,750 --> 01:57:52,239
want to have a close encounter i don't

3159
01:57:56,470 --> 01:57:53,760
want anything to be complicated because

3160
01:57:59,030 --> 01:57:56,480
my life is enough is enough to

3161
01:58:00,149 --> 01:57:59,040
to be concerned about and deal with

3162
01:58:03,350 --> 01:58:00,159
every day

3163
01:58:12,070 --> 01:58:05,109
um

3164
01:58:15,510 --> 01:58:13,589
that's

3165
01:58:16,950 --> 01:58:15,520
yeah

3166
01:58:18,470 --> 01:58:16,960
i saw some of it today i watched a

3167
01:58:20,709 --> 01:58:18,480
little bit more of it yeah he has a lot

3168
01:58:21,910 --> 01:58:20,719
of information on roswell

3169
01:58:24,149 --> 01:58:21,920
him and

3170
01:58:25,830 --> 01:58:24,159
kevin

3171
01:58:27,510 --> 01:58:25,840
randall have done shows together

3172
01:58:29,350 --> 01:58:27,520
together too recently i'm not sure if

3173
01:58:30,709 --> 01:58:29,360
tom carrey and

3174
01:58:34,470 --> 01:58:30,719
and schmidt have done shows together

3175
01:58:39,109 --> 01:58:36,149
that's what i want

3176
01:58:40,950 --> 01:58:39,119
to do tell us what

3177
01:58:42,470 --> 01:58:40,960
you know he's he did that with jimmy

3178
01:58:43,990 --> 01:58:42,480
church in that event i have that

3179
01:58:44,950 --> 01:58:44,000
transcript he did a little more than

3180
01:58:45,910 --> 01:58:44,960
normal

3181
01:58:48,470 --> 01:58:45,920
um

3182
01:58:49,189 --> 01:58:48,480
church pushed him which was good

3183
01:58:50,709 --> 01:58:49,199
but

3184
01:58:52,390 --> 01:58:50,719
you know it's like

3185
01:58:54,310 --> 01:58:52,400
why can't he say

3186
01:58:56,229 --> 01:58:54,320
there's a craft that makes a right hand

3187
01:58:57,589 --> 01:58:56,239
you know a right angle turn and stops on

3188
01:59:03,350 --> 01:58:57,599
a dime i don't understand i mean i

3189
01:59:06,629 --> 01:59:04,790
the phenomenon's like a diamond

3190
01:59:08,870 --> 01:59:06,639
different facets being different topics

3191
01:59:10,390 --> 01:59:08,880
nuts and bolts crypto nda's all the way

3192
01:59:11,990 --> 01:59:10,400
turning diamond around we begin to

3193
01:59:13,669 --> 01:59:12,000
understand everything is connected and

3194
01:59:15,270 --> 01:59:13,679
it may all be connected or maybe a whole

3195
01:59:16,870 --> 01:59:15,280
bunch of different intelligences but the

3196
01:59:19,189 --> 01:59:16,880
connection is they're all coming through

3197
01:59:21,589 --> 01:59:19,199
some some sort of portal some sort of

3198
01:59:23,270 --> 01:59:21,599
way to get into our world you know the

3199
01:59:25,030 --> 01:59:23,280
multiverse they have a way of getting

3200
01:59:27,270 --> 01:59:25,040
into this world or maybe that's how all

3201
01:59:28,870 --> 01:59:27,280
worlds are it just happens or maybe

3202
01:59:31,030 --> 01:59:28,880
certain areas of the country or the

3203
01:59:33,430 --> 01:59:31,040
world or where the

3204
01:59:35,189 --> 01:59:33,440
what's the word the um the veil is

3205
01:59:38,149 --> 01:59:35,199
thinner where they can you know where we

3206
01:59:40,310 --> 01:59:38,159
where it's different worlds you know

3207
01:59:43,990 --> 01:59:40,320
interact or what's the word intersect

3208
01:59:46,790 --> 01:59:45,350
there's too many questions for me to get

3209
01:59:48,310 --> 01:59:46,800
to i'm gonna i'm gonna

3210
01:59:50,390 --> 01:59:48,320
get

3211
01:59:52,790 --> 01:59:50,400
going here two hours i didn't think i

3212
01:59:56,950 --> 01:59:52,800
would go two hours but i appreciate

3213
02:00:00,790 --> 01:59:58,950
yeah it's not the uap it's

3214
02:00:02,390 --> 02:00:00,800
it's the other stuff but there's also

3215
02:00:03,830 --> 02:00:02,400
information that's classified but

3216
02:00:07,030 --> 02:00:03,840
there's also information that's

3217
02:00:08,390 --> 02:00:07,040
considered sensitive so it's like

3218
02:00:09,350 --> 02:00:08,400
i would like that information to be

3219
02:00:12,470 --> 02:00:09,360
shared

3220
02:00:17,350 --> 02:00:15,430
but it's not at least it's not yet

3221
02:00:19,669 --> 02:00:17,360
we need to get the

3222
02:00:21,830 --> 02:00:19,679
inspector general to give lou

3223
02:00:23,030 --> 02:00:21,840
some uh maybe they have privately like

3224
02:00:24,310 --> 02:00:23,040
you know

3225
02:00:26,390 --> 02:00:24,320
you can talk about this don't worry

3226
02:00:27,990 --> 02:00:26,400
about losing your clearance this is okay

3227
02:00:29,910 --> 02:00:28,000
to talk about

3228
02:00:32,229 --> 02:00:29,920
because i think he's probably gotten

3229
02:00:34,149 --> 02:00:32,239
threatened if he talks about x y and z

3230
02:00:36,070 --> 02:00:34,159
that'll lose his clearance but some of x

3231
02:00:45,830 --> 02:00:36,080
y and z are not classified or should not

3232
02:00:49,350 --> 02:00:47,430
oh yeah

3233
02:00:50,390 --> 02:00:49,360
i'm definitely not full of crap but i

3234
02:00:52,550 --> 02:00:50,400
may be

3235
02:00:54,229 --> 02:00:52,560
unhealthily obs

3236
02:00:56,870 --> 02:00:54,239
i may have an unhealthy obsession with

3237
02:01:03,830 --> 02:00:56,880
this subject

3238
02:01:08,950 --> 02:01:05,589
thanks walker yeah the little interviews

3239
02:01:10,390 --> 02:01:08,960
uh i have to prepare for that

3240
02:01:13,109 --> 02:01:10,400
and make sure

3241
02:01:15,030 --> 02:01:13,119
i have at least let him at least have

3242
02:01:17,589 --> 02:01:15,040
him cover some new ground

3243
02:01:23,430 --> 02:01:17,599
if you could pick up and that was

3244
02:01:27,669 --> 02:01:25,510
if you could pick up if you could pick

3245
02:01:31,109 --> 02:01:27,679
uh having a ufo video to classify what

3246
02:01:35,109 --> 02:01:33,350
i would say the 23 minute video that lou

3247
02:01:37,350 --> 02:01:35,119
has spoken about

3248
02:01:39,750 --> 02:01:37,360
in various interviews which

3249
02:01:41,589 --> 02:01:39,760
he said if that video gets out which he

3250
02:01:43,350 --> 02:01:41,599
hopes it will be it will be game over

3251
02:01:45,430 --> 02:01:43,360
people will realize this is not our

3252
02:01:47,189 --> 02:01:45,440
technology and it's not adversarial

3253
02:01:49,189 --> 02:01:47,199
technology i think that's why you see

3254
02:01:50,629 --> 02:01:49,199
congress move i think those folks have

3255
02:01:52,149 --> 02:01:50,639
seen those videos

3256
02:01:53,750 --> 02:01:52,159
remember these folks in these

3257
02:01:55,750 --> 02:01:53,760
intelligence communities they have

3258
02:01:57,109 --> 02:01:55,760
special you know top secret sei

3259
02:01:59,270 --> 02:01:57,119
clearances and a lot of their staff

3260
02:02:01,990 --> 02:01:59,280
members too so they could see it too and

3261
02:02:03,910 --> 02:02:02,000
as lou said gillibrand staff is really

3262
02:02:05,669 --> 02:02:03,920
bright that tells you the staff there

3263
02:02:07,910 --> 02:02:05,679
may be somebody on gillibrand's staff

3264
02:02:09,830 --> 02:02:07,920
who's who has her ear who was telling

3265
02:02:11,669 --> 02:02:09,840
her this is a this is one of the most

3266
02:02:13,910 --> 02:02:11,679
important subjects in the history of

3267
02:02:15,030 --> 02:02:13,920
humanity this is obviously not our

3268
02:02:16,950 --> 02:02:15,040
technology

3269
02:02:18,709 --> 02:02:16,960
this is a winning formula for you in

3270
02:02:21,189 --> 02:02:18,719
2000 remember that's going to be part of

3271
02:02:22,550 --> 02:02:21,199
her thinking too which is fine 2024

3272
02:02:24,550 --> 02:02:22,560
she's going to run again i don't think

3273
02:02:25,750 --> 02:02:24,560
she's going to win president but

3274
02:02:27,510 --> 02:02:25,760
um

3275
02:02:28,629 --> 02:02:27,520
she could i mean depends on who she goes

3276
02:02:30,709 --> 02:02:28,639
up against

3277
02:02:33,030 --> 02:02:30,719
depends if biden doesn't run it could be

3278
02:02:39,109 --> 02:02:33,040
if biden doesn't run it could be uh

3279
02:02:43,669 --> 02:02:41,830
that's another idea let us see video i i

3280
02:02:46,149 --> 02:02:43,679
don't want pictures but i'd be happy

3281
02:02:48,390 --> 02:02:46,159
with pictures in a description for now

3282
02:02:50,070 --> 02:02:48,400
you know bleach through yeah these other

3283
02:02:51,910 --> 02:02:50,080
worlds bleed through into our world and

3284
02:02:54,070 --> 02:02:51,920
we probably bleed into their

3285
02:02:55,990 --> 02:02:54,080
into their world paul eno says

3286
02:02:58,629 --> 02:02:56,000
some of them some of them think we are

3287
02:03:02,310 --> 02:02:58,639
ghosts if you saw uh the others with

3288
02:03:06,950 --> 02:03:04,229
i will say hi to lou and thank you for

3289
02:03:08,950 --> 02:03:06,960
your comments and everybody else

3290
02:03:10,950 --> 02:03:08,960
um

3291
02:03:13,669 --> 02:03:10,960
what a ce5

3292
02:03:15,430 --> 02:03:13,679
ce5 is i think greer came up with that

3293
02:03:17,750 --> 02:03:15,440
word where you're basically out there

3294
02:03:19,750 --> 02:03:17,760
trying to communicate with ufos trying

3295
02:03:21,430 --> 02:03:19,760
to get telepathy communication james ian

3296
02:03:22,550 --> 02:03:21,440
doley is one of the best persons to ask

3297
02:03:23,830 --> 02:03:22,560
for that

3298
02:03:25,350 --> 02:03:23,840
i don't know if you're meditating but

3299
02:03:26,950 --> 02:03:25,360
you're trying to have some communication

3300
02:03:29,109 --> 02:03:26,960
hopefully they show up

3301
02:03:31,270 --> 02:03:29,119
you ask them to move they move joseph

3302
02:03:33,189 --> 02:03:31,280
burke says he doesn't believe

3303
02:03:35,109 --> 02:03:33,199
it it may be something that's more of a

3304
02:03:36,070 --> 02:03:35,119
virtual reality where they're imprinting

3305
02:03:38,550 --> 02:03:36,080
this

3306
02:03:41,350 --> 02:03:39,830
it's they're manipulating your

3307
02:03:43,430 --> 02:03:41,360
perceptions and where they're making you

3308
02:03:45,030 --> 02:03:43,440
think you see a ufo when it's really not

3309
02:03:46,470 --> 02:03:45,040
a ufo like you'll be in the middle of

3310
02:03:47,990 --> 02:03:46,480
traffic and you're the only one that

3311
02:03:49,430 --> 02:03:48,000
sees something that's because they're

3312
02:03:51,030 --> 02:03:49,440
able to manipulate your perceptions

3313
02:03:52,709 --> 02:03:51,040
where you're the only one experiencing

3314
02:03:54,229 --> 02:03:52,719
in that and where it's really not

3315
02:03:55,990 --> 02:03:54,239
happening it's really not happening in

3316
02:03:57,750 --> 02:03:56,000
the physical world that's one of his

3317
02:03:59,669 --> 02:03:57,760
theories he spent a lot of time with

3318
02:04:02,390 --> 02:03:59,679
grier and then broke away just like will

3319
02:04:04,950 --> 02:04:02,400
miller broke away from greer um

3320
02:04:07,189 --> 02:04:04,960
two really sharp people coming from

3321
02:04:09,510 --> 02:04:07,199
coming at it from a different angle but

3322
02:04:11,270 --> 02:04:09,520
they both broke away from greer so

3323
02:04:13,750 --> 02:04:11,280
you know

3324
02:04:15,830 --> 02:04:13,760
that tells me something

3325
02:04:18,229 --> 02:04:15,840
have a great night jeff thanks everybody

3326
02:04:20,629 --> 02:04:18,239
i am gonna call it quits and i have to

3327
02:04:22,950 --> 02:04:20,639
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